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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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 Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: Permanent GOP minority? |
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From Andrew Sullivan's blog, March 23rd...
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I spent part of last night absorbing the latest comprehensive Pew report on trends in public opinion over the last decade. It's a devastating indictment of the Bush-Rove strategy for conservatism and the Republican party. They may have created the most loyally Democratic generation since the New Deal with the under 25s. But check the other findings out. Party identification is now 50 percent Dem and 35 percent GOP. The country is now divided in two over the question of whether military strength is the key to ensuring peace; in 2002 62 percent were hawks and 34 percent were doves. Religious intensity is falling; acceptance of gay people is rising. The younger generation is the most secular of any. Support for the military has never been stronger - people don't blame the troops for the war. The country is divided down the middle on torture, but still in favor of preemptive war in some circumstances. Sorry, Dinesh, but women's equality and freedom are values now overwhelmingly popular among all groups, including Republicans, and strongest among the young. Since Bush has been president, there has been a sharp decline in the number of Americans favoring "old fashioned values about family and marriage." In the last ten years, opposition to gay marriage has dropped ten points and support has risen ten points. There has also been a striking twelve point increase in support for affirmative action over the past decade - all of it among whites.
It turns out that Karl Rove has gone a long way toward securing a permanent majority in American politics ... for liberals and Democrats. The collapse of a coherent, freedom-loving, reality-based conservatism is surely part of the reason.
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wannago
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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OK, now that you've splooged all over yourself with excitement, go clean yourself up and do a little research as to why the Democrats lost their majority in the first place. If Hilly is elected, you'll get to see a grand example of history repeating itself. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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The real hope left for Republicans is that people are mainly disgusted with the GOP, they aren't so much attracted by the Democrats.
Here's the article and then the .pdf.
Those who do not like giving their info to the LA Times should consult this site: www.bugmenot.com
Wannago, I recently read a Stratfor article talking about the coming divorce between the GOP and evangelicals. Its become a loveless marriage for both sides. Tell me, what has the GOP accomplished, to attract myself, a libertarian who also desires a robust foreign policy. Quite frankly, Clinton was more fiscally conservative and a more effective commander-in-chief. Congress under Gingrich was also a lot more restrained and concerned about fighting the bloat in the budget. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| While 'permanent' is a bit too much to hope for, a couple of decades would be nice (which is about as permanent as things get in politics anyway). |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Early reports: GOP will control the House
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Amid criticism of Obama�s domestic agenda, including health-care and economic-stimulus measures, Democratic losses in the House could top the 54 seats Republicans gained in their 1994 resurgence. The losses could be the deepest since the 1938 midterms, when the party lost 72 seats. |
Lest we forget, a lot of the Democratic victories in 2008 were over-extended.
The Senate should be more interesting, and I doubt the Republicans will gain a majority there. |
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rollo
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Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Demographics are against the Republicans in the long run as the u.s. becomes younger and browner. Unless of course the party is completely overhauled. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| rollo wrote: |
| Demographics are against the Republicans in the long run as the u.s. becomes younger and browner. Unless of course the party is completely overhauled. |
The young and brown have to come out to vote, first.
The Old, The Young, and 2010
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| What's more, in today's election, senior citizens constituted more than twice as high a share of the electorate compared to voters under 30. In 2008, the young were 18% of the electorate, and the old were 16% of the electorate. In 2010, the young were 10% of the electorate, and the old were 24% of the electorate. |
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