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[chiarezza]

i understand not being able to hit a student but come one, holding your hands above your head is not really that bad.

[toonchoon]

this is a move in the wrong direction, as the TEACHERS are the ones that raise the children in this country - not the children spoiling parents that let them get away with everything.

Busan schools will NOT do this and I applaud them for it.

[Vagabundo]

[litebear]

[Junior]

[shifty]

It is hard to understand why some parents ever have to resort to beatings to keep order and motivation. They themselves had probably been prey to thrashings from their own parents and in primordial way suffer from �jealousy� that their children could have it better.

The overall atmosphere in the home, inherited genes and the way things are done are things to consider. Parents who get bossed about at work are often inclined to take out their frustrations on something they own and which can�t escape, like their kids.

What I�m getting at, the per se beating of kids does not cause intergenerational cycles of violence. It is more the total picture. In other words take out the actual beatings, isolate that. A smack in a loving home is not going to create a violent child. Versus the habitually unloving home where the only emotional interface is gruff heavy-handedness.

Smacks or no smacks is skimming the surface of the problem. Our society�s tragedy is that children are parented by individuals not equipped with the maturity, spiritual and financial resources. Child parents who have so many unmet needs themselves react to a child�s insatiable ones inappropriately�. they may abuse or damage their child a number of ways.

So this can be an individual thing or endemic to a whole nation, witness nazi Germany, affluent America, apartheid South Africa, examples of the damaged nation. I�d suggest that Korea is right up there with the best of them�hehehe. .

Is it any wonder that our anthropologists have to delve deep into the Amazon jungle to find examples of best practiced parenting skills?

Anyway, I think school is entirely different. There should at least be the prospect of corporal punishment to keep the middle of the road goody two shoes in line.

In my time at school the teachers who meted it out enjoyed classes of students who knew how far they could go, they were happy, they were content. Coughing, squeaking of desks and the general murmur were all noticeably absent.

Versus the students in the doctor spocks� classes were outraged and went red-faced to even comply with the smallest request.

[oldfatfarang]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[winterfall]

[take a rest]

I'm really not sure how this will go. On the one hand, the kids here can be pretty wild, rude, nasty, etc.

But on the other hand, I'm not completely sure that they would be any worse, or if that's even possible. Western kids are a mixed bag as well... but the bad ones are usually bad because they either have too much free time, or they're from a bad home. You can hit them all you want and it's not going to change that.

To be honest, I'm thinking not hitting them is probably a good thing... the well-behaved students will still behave well (it's in their nature), the bad ones will still be bad (it's in their nature), etc.

The only problem I might have with this is if they don't really come up with anything to replace the hitting... I've seen teachers get touchy about ejecting kids from the classroom...

[warmachinenkorea]

Years of training teachers in alternative classroom management and application will be needed. The students need to have appropriate correction for their age starting in 1st grade through HS.

They can't expect the teachers or students to do an about face and it work.

Someone said in "The West" corporal punishment has been banned.

I'm from Tennessee and last taught in TN in 2008. We could and they still do paddle students. It is banned in some states but not all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Konglishman]

[Vagabundo]