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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Thinning hair shampoo Reply with quote

2/3 of all men will experience some for of male pattern baldness in their lifetime. Some, earlier than others. Sadly, I'm one of these. It started creeping back when I was 17 or 18. By 21, it was clear it was starting to thin and recede. Now at 26, I'm missing an inch or two up front, but the top has started to really thin.

Over the years I've learned little tricks to make it look thicker and styles to hide (or at least lesson the appearance) my massive forehead. But for some odd reason, it's recently starting to make bigger and faster moves off my head than before. I've tried some of the shampoos from home, they were okay, not great. But they're so expensive to get mailed over, I'm simply too cheap to continue to pay $80 for shampoo.

When I go to any big store, I see walls and walls of Korean shampoos. I usually skip over them and just get a brand from the West. I'm starting to think maybe some of these herbal shampoos made by Koreans might help a little. I mean, this is a country obsessed with beauty and looking good, so there's bound to be one made for men with my disability.

Is there any specific brand I should try? I know no shampoo will regrow my hair. It's genetics. One of these days, when it's bad enough, I guess I'll go in for a transplant. But for now, I just want something that makes it appear a bit thicker and maybe easier to style.

Do help if you can. There are few things men feel selfconcious about. Manboobs (if you're what of those poor unfortunate bastards) and losing our hair, It's a sad state of affairs really.
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel your pain brother. i just shave mine off. i noticed it at around age 19 that my hair was getting thin. then on a whim, shaved it off. tried to grow it back maybe a year or two later and noticed it grew back really thin. so i just kept shaving it. i'm 28 now. shaved my head for the past 9 years. i miss hair, i miss driving a car with the windows down and the wind blowing through my locks. oh how i long for those days. but, i refused to take pills like propecia and stuff.

and to be honest, i don't know if i would like having hair again. so much to worry about. having a shaved head is so hassle free. i remember the feeling of bad hair days, or, waking up late for something and having to take care of your hair. anyway, if you want a solution, my brother was thinning too and he took propecia and it works for him. but it's expensive, about 100$ for a one month bottle.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Propecia also has some other adverse affects I'd like to avoid. Most notably LDS (limp d* syndrome.) Man, I'm 26. Sure, being horny all the time and having boners just pop up every time the wind changes directions can be annoying, a hassle, and sometimes embarrassing. Still, I'd rather suffer being bald rather than lose my sex drive. There are some chicks that get really turned on by bald guys. Not that many, but damnit if got that bad, I'm gonna stick it to everyone that's into my shiny chrome dome.

I'd consider a transplant if it wasn't so expensive. I've seen guys with the good kind done and you literally can't tell. No scarring. No plug like effect like those done 20 years ago. Just a natural looking hairline, just not full. Too bad an FUE (the really good kind) costs about a hundred bucks per hair. For a medium to large covering, you're looking at like 15 or 20K to get a good job done and not look like someone sewed a rug on your head.

But I still fear shaving. I have an odd shaped head and a big Jew nose. If I shave my head, I'm going to look like a freak. My hair is what makes me attractive ( I think.) I don't mind if going when I'm older. 40 year old guys are supposed to lose their hair. But not 20 somethings. Just give me 15 more years God or you and I are going to have issues later.
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recessiontime



Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys there is hope. I'm a pharmacy student and I know about baldness more than your average doctor.

There at least a few treatments that really work on hair loss but it is a bit expensive.

First there is Propecia (finesteride) 1mg once a day. This basically reduces the amount of dihydrotestosterone in your body that damage your hair follicles. It can reduce hair loss and even grow some back. It's effective in 80% of people that use it. Go see a doctor to get a prescription for it.

Second, I would start using nizoral 1 or 2% shampoo. This will obliterate any fungi living on your hair and may reduce hair loss. Great in combination with Propecia 1mg. Studies have shown that using nizoral 2% can be as effective as using minoxidil so if you are looking for a magic shampoo that might solve you problems this could be it.

These medical treatment are not permanent however and you will have to keep using them. Side effects include diminished libido, grey hair, some hair falling out, some pain but these subside as you get used to the medication.

A long term solution involves hair transplant. This is expensive but worth it. The only problem is that it is best done after you have lost most or all of your hair before doing it. In other words it's best done after you've gone completely bald (think the captain of the enterprise).

Another option is to just shave your head. A shaved head is at least a choice.
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:

A long term solution involves hair transplant. This is expensive but worth it. The only problem is that it is best done after you have lost most or all of your hair before doing it. In other words it's best done after you've gone completely bald.


This is good information, thanks for that.

But why is it best to wait until you've lost all your hair before getting a transplant?

Are you talking about a real hair transplant or the augmented artificial kind?
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ccikulin



Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Location: Sunae-dong, Bundang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weso1, I hear where you're coming from, but you've got some pretty bad info there. I've been using propecia for two years. I'm 27 now, and I've had no side effects. I'm pretty sure that Limp D*** Syndrome, even though it's possible, is very uncommon. And, after taking propecia for about a year and noticing my hair stopped falling out, I had FUE hair transplants done, here in Korea, at the cost of $7 follicle. Not $7/hair, but per follicle, and most follicles have 3-4 hairs growing out of them. They use 1 hair follicles in the very front to make it look more natural. Anyway, nobody can tell and my hair looks great these days. A lot of people get shocked when I show them my "before" pics.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A transplant gives you *growing* hair?

Not that I'm into the idea but that sounds pretty cool.

If it makes people feel better I started receding suddenly and massively just under a year ago - I remember pulling hair out just but running my hands lightly through my hair, until I had a pile the size of... enough to fill a large breakfast bowl. Same in showers. Even now the drain clogs within 4 or 5 hai washes.
The receding line is back by about 2 inches either side.

However, I'm not really bothered to make any effort to stop it. I was worried at one point that I had some disease, based on the pure speed of it happening, so docs checked for fungi on the same day I was told I had diabetes (turns out I didn't, just weird urine) and negative results.
So as long as I'm not dying, I'll survive.

Oh yeah, I'm 23
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF is a pharmacy student doing on Dave's??

Anyways

Dude, shave that shiit off. It looks ridiculous if you try to hide it somehow. Nothing works, aside from a hairpiece, which would be even more ridiculous.

Shave it to a nice stubble. Grow some facial hair. Wear some stylish glasses. Buy some cool hats. Own it. You can compensate for the lack of hair in so many other ways. Dressing really nice and staying fit also really helps.

Anything else looks terrible and obvious.
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
WTF is a pharmacy student doing on Dave's??

Anyways

Dude, shave that shiit off. It looks ridiculous if you try to hide it somehow. Nothing works, aside from a hairpiece, which would be even more ridiculous.

Shave it to a nice stubble. Grow some facial hair. Wear some stylish glasses. Buy some cool hats. Own it. You can compensate for the lack of hair in so many other ways. Dressing really nice and staying fit also really helps.

Anything else looks terrible and obvious.


i have to agree. goes in the process of going bald look worse than bald guys. it just looks like you're in this weird awkward stage of hair loss.

even with the odd shaped head and jew nose, you're going to look better than a guy desperately hanging onto his hair.

as for some girls liking bald guys. it's a small percentage. it's like girls having a "bear' fetish.

watch this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg5rtqzMrlg
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recessiontime



Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"But why is it best to wait until you've lost all your hair before getting a transplant?

Are you talking about a real hair transplant or the augmented artificial kind?"


I'm talking about transplants. That's removing a section of scalp from the back of your head and transplanting it to the areas of the head where your follicles have basically died.

The augmented hair piece is something completely different. It's much cheaper but it's not your real hair growing out of your scalp.

The reason you have to wait is because if you get a hair transplant ahead of time, the parts of your head that were not restored will continue to lose hair and so you'd have to make another trip to a surgeon for a hair transplant. It's just cost effective to go when you've lost most or all of your hair. Having said that I'm not a surgeon and it's likely that they've already gotten around this issue.

When you do the math surgery wins out over taking propecia in the long term. After taking propecia for a really long time your body begins to adapt to the medication (down-regulation of receptors). The leads to taking higher doses or spacing your doses out to up-regulate the number of receptors.

As mentioned before there is a new transplant technique out right now, you might want to look into that as well

http://www.newhair.com/fue/
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 24 and experiencing the same thing, but have had good luck taking a two pronged approach.

1) Propecia. I've been on it for more than two years with no side affects whatsoever. The ED thing is a problem that you're going to have with a lot of medications, it's not like propecia is particularly bad for it.

2) A medicated shampoo with a rub you put on afterwards.

My hair went from pretty bad to barely noticeable in back.
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weso1



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if I forget to take my Propecia for a day or two? Does it all just fall back out right away?

What if I start taking it and it works, but I also lose my sex drive. Then, the get my dick back, I stop taking it.... does all the hair fall back out then or once it's in, does it stay in?
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recessiontime



Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weso1 wrote:
What if I forget to take my Propecia for a day or two? Does it all just fall back out right away?

What if I start taking it and it works, but I also lose my sex drive. Then, the get my dick back, I stop taking it.... does all the hair fall back out then or once it's in, does it stay in?


a day or two wont matter. Maybe 3 or 4 weeks you might see receding hair coming back. It's not like the Simpson where Homer's hair all falls out after he stops using Minoxidil (Rogaine).

If you lose your sex drive it's usually temporary and you adapt to the meds and regain it. Even if you do lose sex drive these things are normally reversible after discontinuing drugs but yes there are cases where they experience impotence even after stopping meds, that is true.

Basically this drug just prevents your testosterone from converting to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) which damages hair follicles. So once you stop taking the meds, your hair follicles are vulnerable again and you will lose them eventually. You'll get to keep your hair until the follicles are deteriorated or dead. This might be 6 months maybe a 1 year, nobody can say but you will be back where you were before you began the treatment.

One last thing is that propecia is best used to regrow hair on the crown of your head. It doesn't do a great job at regrowing the receded hairline at all. Basically it good for the top of your head. It takes a good 1 year to see results and before that you may notice a lot of shedding of hair.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
It takes a good 1 year to see results and before that you may notice a lot of shedding of hair.


This was my experience. I went about a year without seeing a couple of my buddies who were teaching over here and they were a bit surprised when they saw that I had hair.
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