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Alphabet_Stew



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tottenhamtaipeinick wrote:
One of my Chinese friends who has good business connections in Shanghai and here in Australia exports wine (which I drink by the box here as he gives me a box whenever I want)...... He invites me to his place which is massive and drives 2 new bmws one being an M3...Anyway I can see how he got his money. He buys wine here at what he said one night after getting him completely wasted $5.60 and sells them in China for up to $100 Australian.

So I can understand why when I was in Asia I didnt drink much wine haha!


doesn't a box of wine in Australia cost like $5 - and is the cheapest, poorest, tasteless toxic grape juice you could drink?
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tottenhamtaipeinick



Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alphabet_Stew wrote:
tottenhamtaipeinick wrote:
One of my Chinese friends who has good business connections in Shanghai and here in Australia exports wine (which I drink by the box here as he gives me a box whenever I want)...... He invites me to his place which is massive and drives 2 new bmws one being an M3...Anyway I can see how he got his money. He buys wine here at what he said one night after getting him completely wasted $5.60 and sells them in China for up to $100 Australian.

So I can understand why when I was in Asia I didnt drink much wine haha!


doesn't a box of wine in Australia cost like $5 - and is the cheapest, poorest, tasteless toxic grape juice you could drink?


I think you are thinking of Goon, which is an actual Box of wine (the wine is in a bag within a box) and is like what you said tasteless grape juice which costs next to nothing and is probably similar to hangovers with Soju but I am yet to go through that torture and never will! As I think an average person can afford to spend more than $5-$10 to get drunk haha. I was referring to his bottles in their packaging to be exported being in a box. But wine in Australia is extremely cheap as there is just so much of it.
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tottenhamtaipeinick



Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenfiddich Malt Scotch Whisky Liqueur

So has anyone ever had this? or would anyone know the price in Korea, because I feel I may want to live of this stuff if the only options are soju or that Hite Cass beer crap!

Also anyone know the price for Green Label in Korea?
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dumpring



Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Auckland, NZ

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I miss the goon!
I've stopped drinking whites all together here. Even the Aussie Reds were so dire for their prices that I've done the unthinkable and started drinking European swill.

Japan has it right. Bottom priced wine (Ureshii, Mon Frere) is actually cheap, and although it isn't great, for 300Yen (3,000won) you can get a drinkable bottle on par with cask/goon.
The mid-range imported bottles are between 10k-20kwon and although that works out to be a little darer than back home, it's payable for the travel.

Unfortunately, seems that all the wine in Homeplus/Lotte/etc are just 5000won or less in their respective countries but are hiked to the price that decent bottles should cost. Or are just plain bad. If anyone does find a cheaper, tasty Merlot, let me know!


As for Single Malts, try a Springbank if you can find it. I've never been unhappy with Talisker either.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AHawk843 wrote:
Mad Men / Scotch Whisky disciple here, too.

How does the Singleton stack up to JWalk varieties price wise?


Singleton is a high quality whisky and while you really shouldn't compare blended whiskies like JW to Singleton which is a single malt, Singleton would be something near a JW Gold label.

A 700ml bottle of 18 Year Glen Ord Singleton runs around 220,000 which is similar to a bottle of JW Gold.

Good to see some fellow Mad Men watchers too! I've found the "stop me at 3" is the magic number for me as well. haha.

Drink tips :
JW Red - should be mixed, with cola is good
JW Black - 3 ice cubes
JW Green - ice or plain
JW Gold - freeze the bottle overnight and you can have shots of "frozen gold"
JW Blue - sip water and drink plain (but it can be strong for some so add a several drops of water if you like)

Singleton i drink with 2 ice cubes. I like Singleton because it's very very smooth. I find that JW tends to have this spiciness and a little more "bite" to it than i like which is why i use water and ice to tone it down a bit. Black is quite good on the rocks, the ice really releases the smoke and peat.

Macallan i heard is very good as well and is what i'll be comparing Singleton to.
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey now, let's not turn our noses up at box wine. True, it can never be like a collector's wine you keep for years and years, but for a regular table wine, many are as good or even better than their bottled counterparts. There is no chance of cork rot and it prevents the wine from being needlessly exposed to light.
This link lists out a few fab ones. French Rabbit and Black Box are two of my faves for box wines.
http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/drinking/wine/top5_boxwines

PS. Yeah, I know this isn't good advice for Korea, but when you are home, I guarantee you can find delightful wine at $10/bottle or less.

My husband loves that expensive frou-frou scotch, but I still prefer the oaky taste of Jack Daniels.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DorkothyParker wrote:
Hey now, let's not turn our noses up at box wine. True, it can never be like a collector's wine you keep for years and years, but for a regular table wine, many are as good or even better than their bottled counterparts. There is no chance of cork rot and it prevents the wine from being needlessly exposed to light.
This link lists out a few fab ones. French Rabbit and Black Box are two of my faves for box wines.
http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/drinking/wine/top5_boxwines

PS. Yeah, I know this isn't good advice for Korea, but when you are home, I guarantee you can find delightful wine at $10/bottle or less.

My husband loves that expensive frou-frou scotch, but I still prefer the oaky taste of Jack Daniels.


I guess my whole thing about wine is a bit about appearances and also the idea of wine in a box just isn't appealing to me. I don't know how you can drink Jack it has such a throat bite to it...it's not meant to drink straight really. But if you like oaky taste i recommend you try Johnnie Walker Black, on ice is really good.
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Black is good and I don't not enjoy it over ice. But I must admit, I never really got the oak flavor from it. It just tastes too smooth.
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Blackthorne



Joined: 02 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Costco is good for wine (and beer, and most other kinds of alcohol as well). I don't drink wine myself, but last time I was there, a while back, you could get a box of Aussie cabsav for what I presume was a good price.

I had a friend a while back who enjoyed having a glass of wine with dinner during the week and this was how he did it, rather than shell out bucks on pricier bottles.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not such a big fan of whisky myself, but I enjoy brow liquor when I just want to drink a glass or three. A glass of Laphroaig can be nice because I can sip it for a while without drinking too much, and I've seen it in Korea a few times although I can't remember exactly where. For personal consumption I don't really drink more than what I can bring into the country after each visit abroad, so I don't have much experience with shopping here. I usually bring a bottle of Cognac or Aquavit since I haven't seen many good cognac's or any aquavit in Korea. If you like brown liquor you would probably like Gilde Non Plus Ultra, my favourite aquavit. Other aquavits will often not taste like brown liquor at all. It is easy to find in Scandinavia but difficult elsewhere.

If someone could make a list of reasonably priced wines which are easily accessible I would be very grateful. I don't know much about wine, but I used to like it quite a bit back home. The problem is that here I've often been served wine which I can't even recognize as wine (and yes it was made from grapes and not berries). The names of a couple of wines which are not too sweet would be nice.
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