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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Here's what I would do:
Stop caring so much what my co-teacher thinks, and what my principal thinks. There's a point, and once that line has been crossed, you might as well start thinking of yourself a little bit mate. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| darren0946uk wrote: |
what my teacher wrote to me
"I double checked her about the payment on Saturday.
But she told me the same thing what I told you. She said she already asked that to other school's administration chief.
I wanted you to help me. But I don't have enough time to ask someone the payment. Moreover I don't want to waste my time for a certain part. I mean the payment. I have a lot of things to prepare.
I wouldn't ask you to work on Saturday anymore. I'm tired. "
Well I find it quite rude hasn't got engough time or to waste on the correct payment. Oh well that is that. I did'nt reply to her, yet I'm not working this saturday and will not be in the future. Thanks for your comments. Would love to hear also what you think about her letter to me.
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Sounds like she's nice enough, just not understanding that foreigners don't work for free like Koreans would. Now she understands this (though she found out the hard way) so it won't happen again. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| They can ask anything they want outside of the regular working hours. What they cannot do is require it. |
Correct. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| PigeonFart wrote: |
| Valid point above about not talking about your personal life. Just say you can't do it and don't discuss it further. If they persist in asking questions, you just repeat "sorry i can't work Saturdays." End of discussion. |
Correct. Just say NO and mean it. If you react any other way it may appear that you are intimidated and/or that you are negotiating. Once you give up your Saturdays you will NEVER get them back. |
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gillod
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I had this conversation once:
"You should come to work this Saturday and teaching some extra class"
"Sorry, I'm going to Busan Friday night. You need to give me at least 2 weeks notice"
"Oh, you can change your plans okay?"
"No, I can't change my plans. I'm busy. Today is Thursday, that's less than 2 days notice"
"Well just cancel your plans okay"
"No"
"I will have to talk to vice prinicipal"
She never said a word about it again. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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the PS contract is pretty ironclad about not having to work weekends.
It kinds of depends on your relationship with your school.
I get treated very well, perhaps above and beyond what's in the contract, so if I were asked for a special occasion to work at night, or on a weekend, I'd probably do it without a second thought, even knowing it'd be last minute
(almost everything I've ever been asked to do or told about is 5 mins prior to it happening)
If I were a newb, I might do it hoping to establish some "good will/brownie points" that could be used at a later date. If no good will/brownie points were forthcoming, I'd never agree to it again.
in this particular situation, Saturday work for far less than required overtime pay (which "should" actually be even more, considering it's a Saturday/weekend) ... I'd expect some serious quid pro quo in return to even consider it. (like no deskwarking, etc) |
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darren0946uk
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Well thats again for all your comments, as you know I didn't work on Saturday. Now it's Monday and I'm getting the silent treatment. I'm so glad I'm done in April!! This kinda makes my homeland of England look pleasant again heheheh!! |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| jonpurdy wrote: |
| darren0946uk wrote: |
what my teacher wrote to me
"I double checked her about the payment on Saturday.
But she told me the same thing what I told you. She said she already asked that to other school's administration chief.
I wanted you to help me. But I don't have enough time to ask someone the payment. Moreover I don't want to waste my time for a certain part. I mean the payment. I have a lot of things to prepare.
I wouldn't ask you to work on Saturday anymore. I'm tired. "
Well I find it quite rude hasn't got engough time or to waste on the correct payment. Oh well that is that. I did'nt reply to her, yet I'm not working this saturday and will not be in the future. Thanks for your comments. Would love to hear also what you think about her letter to me.
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Sounds like she's nice enough, just not understanding that foreigners don't work for free like Koreans would. Now she understands this (though she found out the hard way) so it won't happen again.[/quote]
koreans really aren't working for free though. the reason why they do extra work is because they have the prospect of getting promoted to a higher position, thus higher salary level, more seniority, more benefits. yes, while foreign teachers do have raises, nothing much really changes and those raises aren't dependent on working extra hours. |
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