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what was with the weather/visibility this Saturday?
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: what was with the weather/visibility this Saturday? Reply with quote

what the hell was that?

some kind of pollution? dust storm, or what?
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The farmers burn the straw left over after harvest so their fields can be ready for planting the following spring.

The smoke gets everywhere. It smells. The sky turns brown. It annoys me too.

Other farmers make hay bales from the leftover straw and sell it.

I prefer the latter method.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's smog.

schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

The humidity has been LOW, not high. Stop calling it fog. "Haze" is the appropriate neutral term, encompassing all causes.
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schwa



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol. I have no investment in whatever its called, just a layman's observations. Whatever else it is, its not smog in Gangwondo -- its clean & fresh. Re: humidity. I'm simply noticing my bathroom floor doesnt dry off & laundry is taking longer to dry than normal for november.

Back to weathermeister Louis.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
... it's not smog in Gangwondo -- it's clean & fresh.

You are deluding yourself.

Just look at the facts: http://www.airkorea.or.kr/

The PM-10 levels for Gangwon-do are twice to three times the recommended maximum of 50 as set by the World Health Organization. Take Gangneung as an example, a bit down the coast from you. They have over 100 microns/meter cubed, according to the hourly measurements on the link above, and it's a yellow dot level, better than your orange dot Sokcho air at the moment!!

Gangwon province has less air pollution than Seoul but it is at levels that are killing people of marginal health. Don't read the scientific research on it ostrich schwa.
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Kimchifart



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.


I've lived in the countryside since arriving in Korea in Jeolla and now up north and by far the majority of rice paddies I've seen were burned. It's interesting to note they aren't allowed to do it. Are there laws pertaining to this?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchifart wrote:
schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.


I've lived in the countryside since arriving in Korea in Jeolla and now up north and by far the majority of rice paddies I've seen were burned. It's interesting to note they aren't allowed to do it. Are there laws pertaining to this?


Hahaha. Welcome to Korea.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchifart wrote:
schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.


I've lived in the countryside since arriving in Korea in Jeolla and now up north and by far the majority of rice paddies I've seen were burned. It's interesting to note they aren't allowed to do it. Are there laws pertaining to this?


A Korean told me it's illegal to burn, but they do it anyhow. Not only paddies, but also trash of some stinky toxic sort. I've seen old ladies having their little, but awfully stinky fires. In Korea, one would be considered dead wrong to tell someone older they are wrong despite how obvious it is they are breaking the law fouling up everyone's air. It has been exceptionally burnt smelling in the past week with gray smog, but it's a regular occurrence for your neighborhood to fill up with some gawd awful toxic stink starting at 5am that hangs low until late morning.
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Kimchifart wrote:
schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.


I've lived in the countryside since arriving in Korea in Jeolla and now up north and by far the majority of rice paddies I've seen were burned. It's interesting to note they aren't allowed to do it. Are there laws pertaining to this?


Hahaha. Welcome to Korea.


well, that's actually a Korean "plus" for me.

the US is infested with useless, stupid, nanny state, or hidden tax "laws".

e.g. "dog licensing ?" .. Rolling Eyes

but in the gym I saw a snippet of Korean news, they were showing images from around Seoul, and then around Gimpo airport..

visibility was pretty much ZERO.
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Kimchifart



Joined: 15 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Kimchifart wrote:
schwa wrote:
The fog this week was pretty much nation-wide (except maybe the far south & Sokcho). My guess is unseasonably high humidity met cooler temperatures. High pollution readings around Seoul were maybe a factor of fog holding stuff in?

Farmers arent supposed to burn off their paddies anymore -- it kills off food (bug) supplies for birds & pollutes. But a few still do.


I've lived in the countryside since arriving in Korea in Jeolla and now up north and by far the majority of rice paddies I've seen were burned. It's interesting to note they aren't allowed to do it. Are there laws pertaining to this?


Hahaha. Welcome to Korea.


Yeees, I do realise laws aren't enforced here, I'm not a noob, but was just wondering if the laws actually exist or not. I usually find there are laws for most things like that here, but as we all know, they simply are not enforced.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great to know and what did i do today? run a 10k race that likely took 3 years off my life.

yesterday you couldnt see namsan from noksapyeong station
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PEIGUY



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could only imagine how your lungs felt Hogwonguy
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what did the Korean media attribute this to?

smog/pollution? or what?
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vagabundo wrote:
so what did the Korean media attribute this to?

smog/pollution? or what?


apparently it was the fault of all the foreign english teachers doing drugs and taking korean women that brought this on korea the past few days.

isnt that the cause of everything bad here?
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