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balzor

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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: Pay/cost of living ratio of other countries compared to Krea |
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Can you provide some thoughts? I know Korea's ratio. I would love some opinions as I'm trying to narrow down where I might want to go. saving about 800-1000$ a month would be nice.
Is China better than Thailand? I am really looking at Taiwan also. Japan would be nice, but can I save if I live outside the cities? |
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Kimjongil76
Joined: 02 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I will say it depends on yoru ifestyle. In Korea you don't pay rent, low taxes and you get a pension.
In Taiwan you can make the same money as Korea, but you pay higher taxes, yoru own rent, and no pension. If you drink like a fish then you won't save much. Here though, you can do privates outside of yoru work. Oh and you need a scooter, gas and such to get around.
China, you can make money their but don't expect to save much when you leave as there currency is low valued.
Japan, you go broke.
Vietnam, you can do well here if you go in with 3000-5000 to start up. You can work at a school, do privates and teh costto live there is low. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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The job market is a lot tighter in Taiwan.
With how cheap Vietnam is I don't see why you could possibly need more than $3,000 to get started. |
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Kimjongil76
Joined: 02 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Taiwan does have a tight market.
I did say 3000-5000.
You will need a form of transportation, and it is always nice to have enough money to fly back home. Plus live one to two months before getting paid. As most the good schools in Vietnam don't hire online and you get while you are there. So it could be two to four weeks before you start. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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If you can avoid paying key money for an apartment in Japan you would get rid of a major money pit.
Would your employer pay taxes/health insurance/pension? IIRC for your first year in Japan you don't pay local taxes. If you have to pay health insurance by yourself that would be over 20,000 yen/month.
Are your transportation costs covered? Most teaching jobs have an allowance for this.
Let's say you make 250,000 yen a month. To save 100,000 yen a month (about $900 let's say) you only have 150,000 available for rent, food, health insurance etc. It's doable, even more so if you can avoid the temptation of partying in the cities every weekend. |
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dongjak
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think in China you have the ability to make a lot of money especially if you are in a larger city (Shenzhen/Guangzhou) in Guangdong Province. If you work there for a year and build your social capital and don't mind working part-time, you could ultimately be earing a large sum of money, working okay hours and enjoying a low cost of living. |
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Konglishman

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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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dongjak wrote: |
I think in China you have the ability to make a lot of money especially if you are in a larger city (Shenzhen/Guangzhou) in Guangdong Province. If you work there for a year and build your social capital and don't mind working part-time, you could ultimately be earing a large sum of money, working okay hours and enjoying a low cost of living. |
I was actually offered a high paying job at the Chinese Normal University (if I remember the name correctly). I would have been teaching my field of expertise there. So, I almost took the job. The only reason that I didn't take it was because my parents got very upset with the fact that would then mean I would have been working for a communist government (even though just as a professor far removed from any politics).
Oh, well. And now, I have an arguably better job as a professor here in Korea although it took me several years of building up my CV before I was able to get it. |
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balzor

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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appreciate all the good responses, decisions, decisions |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Pay in China is still poor, check back in 3 or 4 years. Same for Thailand but the cost of living keeps going up and you have to work more hours.
Outside of the Middle East, if you want to save money, Korea is still the best. When looking at Korea you have to remember to add airfare reimbursement, pension, paid housing, possible settlement allowance, income tax waver, rural allowances, etc. |
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valkerie
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I saved around 80.000 YEN a month from a salary of 230.000 when I first lived in Tokyo. (I had to pay my rent and everything too.) it wasn't easy but you can pick up some private work for extras.
Vietnam is ULTRA cheap if you can get the local(ish) prices. Still cheap if you are not ripped off too much. |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Konglishman wrote: |
dongjak wrote: |
I think in China you have the ability to make a lot of money especially if you are in a larger city (Shenzhen/Guangzhou) in Guangdong Province. If you work there for a year and build your social capital and don't mind working part-time, you could ultimately be earing a large sum of money, working okay hours and enjoying a low cost of living. |
I was actually offered a high paying job at the Chinese Normal University (if I remember the name correctly). I would have been teaching my field of expertise there. So, I almost took the job. The only reason that I didn't take it was because my parents got very upset with the fact that would then mean I would have been working for a communist government (even though just as a professor far removed from any politics).
Oh, well. And now, I have an arguably better job as a professor here in Korea although it took me several years of building up my CV before I was able to get it. |
I had the same experience, I got to work for a year teaching my area of expertise but not at the Chinese Normal University. Do you remember which city/province it was in?
I used my experience in China to get a great University job in Korea. I liked my time in China but I would never ever go back. It has however raised my tolerance level. Sometimes I hear people here complain, and I just think "if you only knew......." |
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Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:47 am Post subject: |
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dongjak wrote: |
Konglishman wrote: |
dongjak wrote: |
I think in China you have the ability to make a lot of money especially if you are in a larger city (Shenzhen/Guangzhou) in Guangdong Province. If you work there for a year and build your social capital and don't mind working part-time, you could ultimately be earing a large sum of money, working okay hours and enjoying a low cost of living. |
I was actually offered a high paying job at the Chinese Normal University (if I remember the name correctly). I would have been teaching my field of expertise there. So, I almost took the job. The only reason that I didn't take it was because my parents got very upset with the fact that would then mean I would have been working for a communist government (even though just as a professor far removed from any politics).
Oh, well. And now, I have an arguably better job as a professor here in Korea although it took me several years of building up my CV before I was able to get it. |
I had the same experience, I got to work for a year teaching my area of expertise but not at the Chinese Normal University. Do you remember which city/province it was in?
I used my experience in China to get a great University job in Korea. I liked my time in China but I would never ever go back. It has however raised my tolerance level. Sometimes I hear people here complain, and I just think "if you only knew......." |
It would have been in Guangzhou somewhat near Hong Kong. I actually would have been working for a western company (or something like that) and gotten contracted to teach at Chinese Normal University. As I recall, the pay would have been around $2,500 per month (it was a rare find as the pay is usually much lower in China), but like I said, I turned down the job due to my parents' objections.
But perhaps, it was for the best, as I was offered and accepted a job at an international school in Korea several weeks later. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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From all accounts, China is better than Thailand. People don't go to Thailand for the money, as it seems a lot of people don't do much better than breaking even. |
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