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heynice
Joined: 15 Jan 2008
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I was hired here, face to face, didn't sign contract yet. Guess those go out thsi week.
I do know the woman told me they have 13 more spots so if I had any friends, please refer them. The campus is nice. I saw the campus but as I was traveling around from Pohang and back the same day, I didn't really see any city. The place seemed very spread out, while I saw houses, I saw no shops or places to eat.
Since some of you work there, do you work more then 16 hours a week? I noticed the base salery is 2.2M. I didn't know if someone should expect to work more hours.
And what you mean that some University teachers are outsourced to public schools? Do they take hired University teachers and then tell them to drive all over the place to teach at public schools? |
Not anymore, but yea - that was the basic deal. People were hired by the university and outsourced to the city. The reason they have so many open positions is because immigration busted their ass earlier this year, so they are trying to fill the void the outsourced workers left when they transfered over to the city. |
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whiteshoes
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| LOL, feel free to refer me! |
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mfincher
Joined: 21 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| Hi mfincher, this is the "friend" that actually works at the university and has a written contract with actual details pertaining to my job and expectations. The information provided is correct and factual as it pertains to camps. We are required to work camps in winter and summer and it is considered a part of our base salary and no additional overtime pay is given. |
I was told by a teacher who currently works there that the camps are only 3 weeks, 3 hours a day, 5 days a week (not a month like your friend said). Also, your friend said they were unpaid. But you just said we get paid our monthly salary. The reality sounds great to me! Your friend did give out false information, and that seems a bit mean! haha. But thanks for your clarification  |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| If you work a camp at MOST universities and it is during your vacation time, you would get paid a wage in addition to your salary. So it is not false information you just are unaware of how the majority of universities operate. You are working for a camp for free. |
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offtheoche
Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| If you work a camp at MOST universities and it is during your vacation time, you would get paid a wage in addition to your salary. So it is not false information you just are unaware of how the majority of universities operate. You are working for a camp for free. |
100% correct. The op is basically giving up his vacation time to do volunteer teaching for a month each semester.
Personally I have never and would never do it, but good luck to the op who seems a little green and all bright eyed and bushy tailed, and my guess is that's just what the (uni admin) doctor ordered, if you catch my drift.  |
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brauggi
Joined: 10 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimjongil76 wrote: |
I was hired here, face to face, didn't sign contract yet. Guess those go out thsi week.
I do know the woman told me they have 13 more spots so if I had any friends, please refer them. The campus is nice. I saw the campus but as I was traveling around from Pohang and back the same day, I didn't really see any city. The place seemed very spread out, while I saw houses, I saw no shops or places to eat.
Since some of you work there, do you work more then 16 hours a week? I noticed the base salery is 2.2M. I didn't know if someone should expect to work more hours.
And what you mean that some University teachers are outsourced to public schools? Do they take hired University teachers and then tell them to drive all over the place to teach at public schools? |
I'm still stateside, but jobhunting with my partner. Is there any information on these positions you could sling our way? I'd have sent you a private message on this, but the forum won't let me do that yet...
Thanks in advance! |
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mfincher
Joined: 21 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told today (the 10th) by the hiring manager that the positions were filled. |
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mycompass
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: interview |
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Thanks
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qcat79
Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Location: ROK
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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to anyone considering working for soonchunhyang university. be forewarned.....
the foreign teachers (a group of about 15 of them) filed a lawsuit on the university for illegally putting them on the university sponsored pension plan and not the national one. none of these teachers will be getting their payout when their contracts end (they lost the lawsuit)....and the ones who were part of the lawsuit are, obviously, not getting their contracts renewed even if they wanted to. well, a close buddy of mine has been working for them for 5-6 years. that's 5-6 years of receiving NO pension money, after having thought he would be getting thousands of dollars back at the end of this contract so it could help fund his graduate education. nope.
it's no wonder the school is hiring some 13-15 teachers for this coming spring. but the thing is that nobody mentioned on this post already is that soonchunhyang is hiring for both the Asan office of education AND themselves for teaching the university students.
as far as teaching for the Asan board of education (through soonchunhyang and sun moon universities) is concerned, here are some major points starting for the march 2011 contract:
- you will be living in the kyunghee apartments if you work for soonchunhyang / or you're being living in hongik apartments or campus dorms if you work for sun moon (your choice).
- your new contract will state 2.0~2.2 million won per month.
- three weeks of camps for NO EXTRA PAY for both winter and summer (sun moon used to give extra pay for being nice. i heard it went from 900,000 per camp, down to 600,000 won, and this past summer down to 300,000 won. so, i'd won't be surprised if it was 0 won for this winter.
- overtime pay has dropped from 33,000 won/hr to 25,000 won/hr.
- there is a separate clause for only 6,000 won/hr overtime for certain types of overtime, like speech contests, etc.
- the elementary school teachers which used to be able to leave when classes were over, are now having to desk warm until 4pm each day.
- no airfare, just 1 million won when contract finishes.
- although 9 weeks of paid vacation are guaranteed (although you have to be back in country one week prior to classes starting....by contract that is)
- if you don't choose housing given, then you only get 250,000 won extra per month.
- and the 100,000 won per month that all teachers got during the school session for travel allowance, is now being based on where you live in terms to where you have to go teach each day. so, 100,000 won is NOT guaranteed anymore, just maybe a portion of that depending on how far the school is. how they figure this is beyond me.
as working for soonchunhyang university as a university foreign professor goes:
- you get something like 8-10 weeks vacation.
- the housing is deplorable and in a student dormitory like atmosphere.
- you teach roughly 16 hours a week. there are chances for overtime pay.
- you MUST teach summer and winter camps with NO EXTRA PAY.
this is about all i know about this part. they're firing a lot of people at the end of this semester because of the lawsuit and all. i'd be very cautious taking a job there if i were you. |
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bcjinseoul
Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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to anyone considering working for soonchunhyang university. be forewarned.....
the foreign teachers (a group of about 15 of them) filed a lawsuit on the university for illegally putting them on the university sponsored pension plan and not the national one. none of these teachers will be getting their payout when their contracts end (they lost the lawsuit)....and the ones who were part of the lawsuit are, obviously, not getting their contracts renewed even if they wanted to. well, a close buddy of mine has been working for them for 5-6 years. that's 5-6 years of receiving NO pension money, after having thought he would be getting thousands of dollars back at the end of this contract so it could help fund his graduate education. nope.
it's no wonder the school is hiring some 13-15 teachers for this coming spring. but the thing is that nobody mentioned on this post already is that soonchunhyang is hiring for both the Asan office of education AND themselves for teaching the university students.
as far as teaching for the Asan board of education (through soonchunhyang and sun moon universities) is concerned, here are some major points starting for the march 2011 contract:
- you will be living in the kyunghee apartments if you work for soonchunhyang / or you're being living in hongik apartments or campus dorms if you work for sun moon (your choice).
- your new contract will state 2.0~2.2 million won per month.
- three weeks of camps for NO EXTRA PAY for both winter and summer (sun moon used to give extra pay for being nice. i heard it went from 900,000 per camp, down to 600,000 won, and this past summer down to 300,000 won. so, i'd won't be surprised if it was 0 won for this winter.
- overtime pay has dropped from 33,000 won/hr to 25,000 won/hr.
- there is a separate clause for only 6,000 won/hr overtime for certain types of overtime, like speech contests, etc.
- the elementary school teachers which used to be able to leave when classes were over, are now having to desk warm until 4pm each day.
- no airfare, just 1 million won when contract finishes.
- although 9 weeks of paid vacation are guaranteed (although you have to be back in country one week prior to classes starting....by contract that is)
- if you don't choose housing given, then you only get 250,000 won extra per month.
- and the 100,000 won per month that all teachers got during the school session for travel allowance, is now being based on where you live in terms to where you have to go teach each day. so, 100,000 won is NOT guaranteed anymore, just maybe a portion of that depending on how far the school is. how they figure this is beyond me.
as working for soonchunhyang university as a university foreign professor goes:
- you get something like 8-10 weeks vacation.
- the housing is deplorable and in a student dormitory like atmosphere.
- you teach roughly 16 hours a week. there are chances for overtime pay.
- you MUST teach summer and winter camps with NO EXTRA PAY.
this is about all i know about this part. they're firing a lot of people at the end of this semester because of the lawsuit and all. i'd be very cautious taking a job there if i were you. |
wow. |
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mycompass
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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Ggggg
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qcat79
Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Location: ROK
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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no, i don't work for soonchunhyang, but i know several people that do.
i think the only thing that is changing is that they're getting rid of a lot of teachers who were making 2.5 million won because of all the experience and years they put in there. it seems as if they're starting out on a new slate with the bare possible minimum salary they can. this seems to be keeping in line with most of the positions around the peninsula now. lower salaries and worse and worse benefits.
i'm really not sure if they will be keeping upcoming teachers on that pension scheme or not. i could ask around.
i'm not sure about the administration still being there either. it seems as if they (like all korean employers do), get a big head when the market suddenly turns in their direction. i'm sure they won't have a problem attracting candidates out here with the economy and all. i mean that university is on the VERY LAST station of line 1. also, not too far away, is the cheonan/asan ktx station. so, it's not like you'd be living out in jeolla-buk-do or jeolla-nam-do. |
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