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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get your prices from Danawa, not Gmarket.
691 for the Zotac
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1122408&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=876&cate_c3=972&cate_c4=

Still $620.
but only a 25% price difference.

Rampage 3
http://blog.danawa.com/prod/?prod_c=1050783&cate_c1=861&cate_c2=875&cate_c3=968&cate_c4=
572 about $513
still a big difference but a little less dramatic, only 40%

if you're going to compare the rock bottom newegg with a price here, compare it with the right source.

but yes, enthusiast items will still be cheaper in the US, but not necessarily cheaper than Canada or say the UK as they often get hosed on prices.

Also keep in mind that these prices may come from a time when the exchange wasn't as good and are still riding high.
Were the exchange at 1400 or 1500 instead of 1100. These prices would look a heck of a lot better.

in Canada for a long time after the dollar hit parity we were screwed on books. Books were typically priced something like $10.99CAD/$7.99 USD.
Great when the canadian dollar was at 60 cents. When the dollar hit parity it took them the better part of a year before prices corrected.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
I'm a skeptic when it comes to future proofing PC's. Considering the gaming industry I give any PC no matter how high end at most 3 years so i usually assume i'm buying a new PC after a few years.


When builders talk about futureproofing, they basically mean, is it upgradeable. Motherboard and PSU are most important here. Can't cut corners on either or you will kick yourself later. I agree on the 3 year thing, I tend to feel the same way. However, there's nothing worse than a new shiny graphic card being released and finding out your PSU isn't strong enough for it.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
red_devil wrote:
I'm a skeptic when it comes to future proofing PC's. Considering the gaming industry I give any PC no matter how high end at most 3 years so i usually assume i'm buying a new PC after a few years.


When builders talk about futureproofing, they basically mean, is it upgradeable. Motherboard and PSU are most important here. Can't cut corners on either or you will kick yourself later. I agree on the 3 year thing, I tend to feel the same way. However, there's nothing worse than a new shiny graphic card being released and finding out your PSU isn't strong enough for it.


Motherboard isn't much of a future proof if they change the architecture before you need to buy again. PSU is usually long term, sound cards, hard drives, and optical drives and other things like card readers can all be carried over. Unless you're constantly upgrading, if you only upgrade every 2 years for example, there is a good chance the architecture will change.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good find on the AMP price, still crazy though.

For motherboard, aside from the socket, the upgrading I'm talking about is more like adding a 2nd GPU.

example:
My first i7 build in Korea I bought an Asus P6TSE. The price was good but I didn't read the small the print. It was crossfire ready, but had no SLI support. Sadness ensued as I'm a nvidia fan.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I edited my previous post with prices pulled from Danawa. I'm also an NVidia fan. Laughing
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:


Went ahead and did it:
NVidia� GeForce� GTX 480 - 400,000 KRW


No way in hell dude. Card is either used, or binned so low that it can't perform to advertised specs.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
red_devil wrote:


Went ahead and did it:
NVidia� GeForce� GTX 480 - 400,000 KRW


No way in hell dude. Card is either used, or binned so low that it can't perform to advertised specs.


ICODA has the same brand listed for 400,400
http://www.icoda.co.kr/i_product/pro_view.html?it_num=156378&ref=dana&service_id=pcdn
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, go for it then. Good luck with "Colorful" Wink
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red_devil



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
Wow, go for it then. Good luck with "Colorful" Wink


Uhh guess you didn't read my previous post where i said i just grabbed the cheapest listed not according to brand names. The other brand names GAINWARD, Absolut, inno3D i didn't recognize but MSI is listed at 605,000
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cheapest Danawa price means nothing.....those guys are phishing. I've bought 3 graphics cards in the last 3 years and each time my wife and I put the order in they call back in a day or two to say its out of stock but would you like this crappy model instead.

I'd go with the Gmarket price.

They do indeed gouge here for anything higher than mainstream......the Korean business model being that those things you sell very few of should be sold with a high margin to make up for few units sold.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
Uhh guess you didn't read my previous post where i said i just grabbed the cheapest listed not according to brand names.


Hey mate, sorry about that. I was getting set to leave work and didn't read it well or click any links. I'm home now. I just know that 400,000w for a 480 is too good to be true. If someone actually orders that and it's shipped for 400,000, then props to them, but it's not 200,000won cheaper than the known brands for nothing.

eamo wrote:
The cheapest Danawa price means nothing.....those guys are phishing.

Tend to agree with this. Although I have no proof because I've never used Danawa. But it happened to me on me Gmarket once. I saw an Antec 902 case about 50,000w cheaper than all the rest so I went and ordered it. 2 days later, I got an email saying my order was cancelled because the item was incorrectly priced. Under that was a nice flyer ad showing me all their other great deals.

Makes sense for them to do that, since Danawa just grabs prices from all over the Internet. A store can get some good traffic to their site if they purposely list something as the cheapest in Korea.

Of all the times I've gone hunting in Yongsan, or in Technomart, or on the Internet, they always come back to the generally the same price give or take a few per cent. The Gmarket average seems to be reliable. It doesn't mean better deals can't be found elsewhere, but when pricing out high end computer parts I think it's quite good for approximate costs.

All that being said, I still prefer to use a more established actual computer parts online store like Joyzen when ordering. Stuff is in stock, huge selection, fast delivery, and it isn't a huge pain to return something.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Tend to agree with this. Although I have no proof because I've never used Danawa

Well I just bought my parts a couple weeks ago, lowest price, had no problems with anything.
2 days later everything was at my door.
no mysterious e-mails, no canceled orders. Just because someone got shafted once doesn't mean every low price on danawa is some kind of rip off.

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the Korean business model being that those things you sell very few of should be sold with a high margin to make up for few units sold.

Which goes to my point about the exchange rate. If they had to restock when the exchange rate was bad, the price would be high. They're not going to cut those items by a huge rate just because the exchange is better now, the booksellers in Canada certainly didn't.
If the won stays decent for awhile, 1000-1100 you might see the prices come down on some of the higher end stuff.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Just because someone got shafted once doesn't mean every low price on danawa is some kind of rip off.


Well, eamo gave an example that happened to him 3 times, and I gave one that happened once on another site.

No one is saying every low price on danawa is a rip off.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Just because someone got shafted once doesn't mean every low price on danawa is some kind of rip off.


Well, eamo gave an example that happened to him 3 times, and I gave one that happened once on another site.

No one is saying every low price on danawa is a rip off.


No, he said:
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I'd go with the Gmarket price.

I guess he failed to notice that the lowest price on one of those items comes from Gmarket, the other from Auction.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only have to dial in the GTX480 on the main Danawa VGA page to see that the prices are all over the place.

There's a Colorful GTX480 there for 381,000!! I'd like to see anyone try to place an order for that.....it just won't be there.

The well known brand GTX480's are an average of 600,000 all the way up to 800,000 +........that's the true price of a GTX480 in Korea.....believe me....that's what you'll end up having to pay if you really want a GTX480.

I'd expect low-profile brands like Colorful to be 50,000 or so cheaper than the well-known brands. But more than 220,000 cheaper???

How do you explain that?

It looks like bait and switch tactics to me..........and I wouldn't put it past any of the online sellers to do it...Gmarket, Auction, Enuri....whoever.

Sometimes they do it, sometimes they don't.
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