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[morrisonhotel]

[edwardcatflap]

100% of rent paid from housing benefit and 100% council tax paid from council tax benefit. Income support, around �50 a week and child tax credits around �40 a week. Also child benefit, around �18 a week. Maintenance payments are taken into account � mothers are allowed to keep �10 a week the rest comes off their income support. And that�s just for one sprog. Plus half price travel. Free courses, eye checks, etc.. etc.. I�m not saying they�re well off but they can�t complain. They're all better off than single mums on the minimum wage

[Geumchondave]

Whilst im sure we would all love to hear more about mr catflaps conservative views on the welfare system I believe the reason this is in the job related forum was because the original poster was concerned about the role of corporal punishment in modifying long term behavior amongst students.

I think the shear fact that the argument has turned towards socio-economic issues suggests most people agree that the student rights act passed last month will not on its own unleash the hordes of disruptive students?

Im not being sarcastic (well I am a bit) but I have heard this view repeated many times by other native teachers and I just can not except that corporal punishment is the key to modifying behavior in the classroom.

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[Geumchondave]

The little dig there was to remind you guys that politics belongs in the other forums - this post was NOT about uk politics but contrasting views on discipline and corporal punishment and I think is a useful one to discuss that issue

[Geumchondave]

thanks to the OP regardless of different views on the subject - its worth discussing I think given that the changing law will effect a lot of teachers

[youtuber]

Haha now I know why the UK has to recruit Canadian (and other) teachers. No way man. The UK public school system will rot before I ever head there.

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[morrisonhotel]

[edwardcatflap]

This is not an attack on your father but when Labour came to power in May 1997, 1.9 million people received Disability Allowance. By 2007, the number of claimants had risen to 2.85 million. Is the state of our nation's health really so bad that 2.85 million people between the ages of 16-65 are so disabled that they can't do any kind of job at all?

[jrwhite82]

I'm no expert on UK economy, but is the state of the economy so great over the past 13 years that there has been enough job growth to support the population?

And back to the subject at hand. A child like that (like every child) will in no way benefit from a teacher smacking him. A child like that needs to be removed from your typical classroom environment and placed in a classroom designed for students will special emotional needs.

I have subbed at schools designed for students with severe emotional disorders. The teachers in these schools are trained with "hands on" approaches that involve safe restraint methods. If a student disobeys the teacher, they are told to leave. If they refuse, they will be forcibly removed from the classroom in a way that won't hurt them. Then they are essentially locked in solitary until they calm down are ready to re-enter the classroom to take part in the lesson. Hitting them does not work.

I can't believe people are still advocating corporal punishment. I've never hit a student and I rarely have discipline issues. Hitting a student does nothing more than makes a bad teacher feel better.

[le-paul]

I worked as a CPN a few years ago. The two most professions that came to the surgery for intervention were
1/call centre operators
2/ teachers

Teachers mostly came with stories of how crap their job was becasue they got little or no support after being what was tantamount to abused from students.
Alot of them were older and just didnt know how to deal with a generation of violent, disrespectful, unruley etc etc kids who were protected by the current government and lack of support from parents to the point were teachers were almost powerless to punish them.
They couldnt even keep them in detention becasue if they complained to the parents about anything - most of the time they wouldnt do anything.

its a thankless job I think. There was a time, here included where you had high status in the community becasue you were a teacher - now youre just used as an excuse for other peoples problems.

[BrightonChris]