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Should you ever work at "new" schools?
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cincynate



Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a job at a new Hagwon. It is awesome. The classes are small, and you really have a lot of autonomy as there is no solid system in place. You really get to put in your input.
However, there is always the chance that the Hagwon will go bankrupt, but it is very easy to find a new job when you're already here.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cincynate wrote:
I took a job at a new Hagwon. It is awesome. The classes are small, and you really have a lot of autonomy as there is no solid system in place. You really get to put in your input.
However, there is always the chance that the Hagwon will go bankrupt, but it is very easy to find a new job when you're already here.


If you have copies of all your documents and if the hakwon gives you a release letter and if Immigration agrees to this and if you can beat out the thousands of teachers all competing for jobs...then yes it's very easy.

Otherwise, not so much.
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TheresaTheresa



Joined: 24 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hagwonnewbie wrote:
My last 2 jobs were new academies

First one- Quit after 5 months. Owner was an idiot who blamed the teachers for all his problems. The teacher who stayed took a huge voluntary pay cut.

Second one - Awesome new academy, excellent staff, high salary, low class size / work load. Stayed 2 years.

Neither one has had any success. However, the well funded one is still operating and appears to have some future.


The behavior in bold is typical of "new" hagwons.

The relationship between funding and staying afloat is also very true. New hagwons that are not well funded are risky business for a teacher expecting to get paid.
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nfld_chingu



Joined: 29 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked for two hagwons in Korea: one was new, and one was well-established with many branches. I had a much easier/better time at the second one (and higher salary, but that was partly because I had more experience). The "new" hagwon was actually not really new, it was a hagwon that had several branches in Seoul already, but they opened another one in Daegu and I worked there. The first six months were hell. The enrolment was super-low (I think partly because we opened in September, in the middle of the school year, because in March we got a lot more students). We (the teachers) worked our butts off preparing materials for classes, decorating our classrooms, and trying to make sure the kids were happy (and learning). But we were still blamed for everything. Our boss threatened to start firing people if we didn't improve as teachers, because the low enrolment was clearly our fault.
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DosEquisXX



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nfld_chingu wrote:
The enrolment was super-low (I think partly because we opened in September, in the middle of the school year, because in March we got a lot more students). We (the teachers) worked our butts off preparing materials for classes, decorating our classrooms, and trying to make sure the kids were happy (and learning). But we were still blamed for everything. Our boss threatened to start firing people if we didn't improve as teachers, because the low enrolment was clearly our fault.


Is this common in hagwons with low enrollments?

A friend of mine in Korea set me up with a couple of people who own a hagwon. They have 5 classrooms, but only use 2. They have classes scheduled for middle school students, but don't have any students for those classes. So, it's elementary students only.

So, I'd only be teaching a few classes a day. Seems like a dream job in a way, but at the same time the low enrollment could be scary if I actually expect to get paid.

What's my play here?
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it sucks, there's always an easy way out. They might fail, thus saving you a lot of trouble with getting fired/laid off, whatever. From there it's usually a lot easier to find work IF they do close the school or get rid of you. As DosEquis said, it usually works out.
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