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sojusucks
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 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: foreigner relocation |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/11/113_76334.html
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11-14-2010 18:24 여성 음성 듣기 남성 음성 듣기
Foreign worker relocation rules eased
By Park Si-soo
Employers will be able to relocate their foreign workers to various workplaces without prior approval of the Ministry of Justice and long-term foreign residents will be allowed to reenter the country more easily.
These are part of the government�s moves to make immigration rules friendlier for foreigners, the Ministry of Justice said Sunday.
�This is intended to reduce the administrative burden of employers of foreign workers and at the same time to boost the use of foreign workers by domestic firms,� immigration authorities said in a statement.
Under the revised decrees that go into effect from today, companies employing foreigners on E-1 (professorship), E-2 (foreign language instructor), E-3 (researcher), E-4 (technology transfer), E-5 (professional employment) and E-6 (arts and performance) visa types will no longer have to report the relocation of their workers to subsidiaries.
The new decrees eliminate the fine of up to 2 million won Korean employers face when they fail to report workplace changes for their foreign employees to the ministry within 15 days.
However, among E-6 visa holders, those providing entertainment services at hotels, bars and night clubs will be excluded from the change.
At the same time, foreigners staying for more than three months will be able to freely travel overseas from Dec. 1 as long as they return within one year after their departure.
Currently, foreigners, classified as �long-term residents,� are required to obtain reentry visas before taking an overseas trip _ regardless of its duration.
Nearly 900,000 people will benefit from the change, the ministry said.
�The amendment will help ease the inconvenience suffered by foreign workers and residents to a great extent,� said Seok Dong-hyeon, a commissioner at the Korea Immigration Service.
The ministry also plans to simplify immigration checks for foreign participants in Expos and other international events, making it easier for foreign delegates to obtain an entry visa. Fast-track immigration checkpoints at airports will also be available, it added.
�We will continue to amend rules that stand in the way of the country�s hosting of major internal events,� said a spokesman for the ministry, adding that the ministry is working to revise related laws.
Asylum seekers here are another beneficiary group. The new decrees oblige the ministry to complete its screening process on a refugee claim within six months of application.
For time-efficient and consistent handling of refugee issues, the Seoul Immigration Service will exclusively deal with all refugees.
To ensure an independent and fair assessment, half of the 10 members of the Refugee Recognition Committee will be staffed with experts from civic groups. The ministry is considering allowing a civilian expert to chair the committee.
A total of 2,803 asylum seekers have come to Korea from nearly 40 countries _ the largest group is from Nepal, followed by China, Myanmar, Pakistan and Nigeria.
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Yeah, now schools can pass us around more easily. This could be both good and bad. |
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BoholDiver
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know about 3-D type people, but what you might find for us teachers is that some bosses who own more than one school may split employment, or two small schools might partner up and hire only one native speaker. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: Re: foreigner relocation |
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11-14-2010 18:24 여성 음성 듣기 남성 음성 듣기
Foreign worker relocation rules eased
By Park Si-soo
At the same time, foreigners staying for more than three months will be able to freely travel overseas from Dec. 1 as long as they return within one year after their departure.
Currently, foreigners, classified as �long-term residents,� are required to obtain reentry visas before taking an overseas trip _ regardless of its duration. |
Does this mean that we (E-2s) no longer need to worry about the re-entry permits when we take a vacation? |
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Poker
Joined: 16 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah could someone please lay out all the permutations of this new ruling for E2 visa holders? What does it effectively mean for GETs in Korea? |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Under the revised law, however, F-5 visa holders who have registered a long-term stay (of 91 days or more) to the Immigration Office are to be spared the processes when re-entering the country within a year of leaving the country. |
I guess E-2's will still need re-entry permits......and the only change that affects us is that employers can now legally shuffle us among different job sites without immigration approval. No benefits to E-2 holders in this round of changes. Congrats hagwon association. You won this round, too.
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20101114000294 |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
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| Under the revised law, however, F-5 visa holders who have registered a long-term stay (of 91 days or more) to the Immigration Office are to be spared the processes when re-entering the country within a year of leaving the country. |
I guess E-2's will still need re-entry permits......and the only change that affects us is that employers can now legally shuffle us among different job sites without immigration approval. No benefits to E-2 holders in this round of changes. Congrats hagwon association. You won this round, too.
http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20101114000294 |
This^ For years it used to be illegal (for E-2 visa holders) to work anywhere else outside of their primary place of employment. When public schools started hiring en masse, the rules were relaxed for them so that an E-2 holder could work for one or more. And now hakwons have won the same exemption.
Expect more complaints about being farmed out. I can foresee greedy hakwon owners maximizing their profits by having you teaching mornings (at a kindy place or public school while they get a cut) and then you teach afternoons/evenings at their place. Or you could be passed around between 2-3 hakwons.
Yeah I don't see too many benefits...unless you're getting paid by both jobs. But I don't see that happening too often because if it's a subsidiary, the employer can claim it's the same job...just at a different place. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Under the revised decrees that go into effect from today, companies employing foreigners on E-1 (professorship), E-2 (foreign language instructor), E-3 (researcher), E-4 (technology transfer), E-5 (professional employment) and E-6 (arts and performance) visa types will no longer have to report the relocation of their workers to subsidiaries. |
The way I read this, "subsidiaries" you could only be farmed out to another branch of the same company, not farmed out to another company or school altogether. Could be worse.
Gotta love how Kimmi and the Korea Times is spinning this as benefiting foreign workers, when it's really just benefiting Korean companies who hire foreigners. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Another wonderful way of how hagwons can cheat NETs.
Exactly like another poster mentioned, hire one, farm him at 2 schools
Same could happen in public schools- one school has E class in the morning, another E class in the afternoon
China is looking better everyday. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I thought this would be a hotter topic. Maybe many don't understand what it means. |
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litebear
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
| I thought this would be a hotter topic. Maybe many don't understand what it means. |
Maybe they don't care. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
The way I read this, "subsidiaries" you could only be farmed out to another branch of the same company, not farmed out to another company or school altogether. Could be worse.
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I think it would be easy enough for the employer just to treat you as a moving teacher. They pay you (just normal salary, of course) and tell you where to go. The school to which you're being farmed out pays your employer. Basically your employer is a contractor that the other school hires. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I always make sure to find out what the office hours are and how far my accommodation is from the school - AND I get it in the contract. So, if a school wanted to lend me to another branch or a completely different school for that matter then it's no problem. I still wouldn't be working a split shift.
And if it really comes down to it, there's always the old tried and trusted method of dealing with nasty hogwon owners --> "Adios, amigo!" |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:55 am Post subject: Re: foreigner relocation |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
| Yeah, now schools can pass us around more easily. This could be both good and bad. |
Gotta luv the way they present it as being more foreign-friendly. In reality its a case of the director ordering you to teach his kids and family in the afternoons.
Will they ever get round to allowing foreigners to actually change jobs without having to get a whole new visa...? |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: foreigner relocation |
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| Junior wrote: |
| sojusucks wrote: |
| Yeah, now schools can pass us around more easily. This could be both good and bad. |
Gotta luv the way they present it as being more foreign-friendly. In reality its a case of the director ordering you to teach his kids and family in the afternoons.
Will they ever get round to allowing foreigners to actually change jobs without having to get a whole new visa...? |
Whaddaya think this is, Japan?  Oh... wait   |
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