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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: |
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i like buckaroo jeans, but i dont have any (im too big)
uniqlo is decent, I guess. go to japan and go to right on (jeans chain), lots of great stuff |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: |
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This website carries a lot of Japanese denim brands.
http://www.selfedge.com/ |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| I don't want Levi's, Diesel or Evisu as everyone wears these or cheap knock-offs of these brands. I want something a bit more special. |
A sad victim of mass marketing. Jeans are jeans, and nobody should really care. Except the people making vast amounts of money from people who think this kind of thing is really important. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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i thought i saw an actual apc store somewhere in apgujeong, but i could be wrong or it could have been a case of brand/design theft.
anyway they are solid jeans. i had a pair that i wore very frequently for 2 and a half years. i finally got rid of them last year, but they lasted a long time. nice cut, nothing flashy, good denim. the new standards are good no matter your size, but if you're super thin go for the cures. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
A sad victim of mass marketing. Jeans are jeans, and nobody should really care. Except the people making vast amounts of money from people who think this kind of thing is really important. |
The most important part with jeans is how well they fit. Different brands have different cuts which fits different people. Finding a brand that fits you well can be very useful, but don't get fooled into thinking an expensive brand will necessarily fit you any better than a cheap one. I have a hard time finding Levi's, Calvin Klein or Guess jeans that fit me, but Diesel and apparently Tabloid News fits me well. Currently I'm wearing a no-name brand with no prestige, but it fitted me better than anything else I could find.
The only exception is if you're looking at the really cheap jeans. Then quality may actually matter. But for most jeans how well they fit is much more important than "quality". |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Another tip....
get them tailored....don't worry about fit so much....but rather if you like how they look.
The tailors here do great jobs on jeans for around 7-10 bucks a piece. |
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vsiddy
Joined: 14 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| I don't want Levi's, Diesel or Evisu as everyone wears these or cheap knock-offs of these brands. I want something a bit more special. |
A sad victim of mass marketing. Jeans are jeans, and nobody should really care. Except the people making vast amounts of money from people who think this kind of thing is really important. |
Don't you love it when someone with absolutely no knowledge on a matter has to come and give his 'two cents'?
The jeans being talked about are not 'mass marketed'.
And yes jeans ARE jeans, you're very clever. And cars are also cars, yet there's a difference between driving a Aston Martin vs some crappy Daewoo, comprende? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you really saying that the difference between wearing two different pairs of jeans can be compared to the difference between driving an Aston Martin and a Daewoo? You have been brainwashed. It's the emperor's new clothes mate, The people who make money from these things are laughing at suckers like you. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Are you really saying that the difference between wearing two different pairs of jeans can be compared to the difference between driving an Aston Martin and a Daewoo? You have been brainwashed. It's the emperor's new clothes mate, The people who make money from these things are laughing at suckers like you. |
In relative terms, I would say yes. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| In relative terms, I would say yes |
That statement is meaningless as the phrase 'in relative terms' means you cannot fairly compare two sets of figures directly. Thus people on 10 pounds a week in 1935 were better off 'in relative terms' than those on 300 pounds a week in 2010. You cannot make a direct comparison between the 10 pounds and the 300 pounds.
Thus you are saying that you cannot make a direct comparison between the size of difference in quality between two pairs of jeans and the difference in quality between an Aston Martin and a Daewoo. Which was kind of the point I was making. The difference in quality between an Aston Martin and Daewoo is far more marked than it could ever be between two pairs of jeans. it was a ludicrous analogy. |
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thatkidpercy
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Are you really saying that the difference between wearing two different pairs of jeans can be compared to the difference between driving an Aston Martin and a Daewoo? You have been brainwashed. It's the emperor's new clothes mate, The people who make money from these things are laughing at suckers like you. |
Actually the brands being discussed in this thread are barely mainstream and people do buy them for the quality of the product, not simply for the name.
A brief history - before jeans were mass-produced on a massive scale, denim was made on "shuttle looms" - these looms produce denim of a tighter weave and better quality than the modern looms, but are much slower and prone to problems. When brands like Levi's etc. started producing jeans in the thousands/millions of pairs at a time they switched out the old shuttle looms for modern equipment. A lot of these old shuttle looms ended up in Japan, purchased by artisans/conniseurs interested in preserving the history of the fabric and producing a better product than the mass-produced items everybody else was putting out. It is the denim made on these machines that people are willing to pay a premium for, quite simply because it's better thanwhat you'd get otherwise.
Most people interested in this kind of denim buy their jeans "raw", meaning that they've not been washed by the manufacturer after the dying process and so will fade naturally and in accordance with how they are worn and washed by the owner. In contrast, the pre-faded jeans that most people buy will have been washed and sandblasted dozens of times before they reach the store. I'll admit it might sound a bit pretentious to care so much about an item of clothing, but a good pair of jeans can last years (the pair I usually wear have been going strong for 5 years now and have a lot of life left in them) and so you do get value for money.
The manufacturers aren't laughing at the people buying these products - most of them (the Japanese companies anyway) are small companies with few employees and the overheads are high so it's not like they're laughing all the way to the bank!
I'm not saying people should care about this, but don't call other people suckers for being interested in something that you don't understand... I don't like (understand!) jazz music but I'm not gonna call someone a sucker for not listening to rock..?! |
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thatkidpercy
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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I too can vouch for selfedge - excellent service. http://blueingreensoho.com , also based in the states, are worth checking out too. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah right and Jack Daniels whiskey is lovingly aged in the barrel according to a century old Tennessee tradtional process etc... etc..etc..
I've still got a pair of jeans I bought for a tenner about the same number of years ago. |
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thatkidpercy
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
Yeah right and Jack Daniels whiskey is lovingly aged in the barrel according to a century old Tennessee tradtional process etc... etc..etc..
I've still got a pair of jeans I bought for a tenner about the same number of years ago. |
that's great, really! if you're happy with your jeans then good for you - it's not a bragging contest and I'm not trying to change your mind.
your analogy is a little off though and actually goes to prove the point im arguing as jack daniels is one of the most well known whiskies in the world and produced on a massive scale.. the denim companies being discussed here are the complete opposite of that though - there's no status to be gained from wearing 'skull' or 'flathead' jeans as almost nobody will know what it is anyway! those who buy such products do so because they know what they are paying for. if you just want a pair of jeans to be "a pair of jeans" then by all means buy whatever you want!
are you going to tell a cigar smoker that the cheapo cigars in your local off licence are the same as a hand-rolled Cuban? to those who don't care about cigars you're probably right but the smoker is going to think they are worlds apart! I don't smoke, by the way  |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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| I think that I'll start buying styles I like a size or two larger than usual and then I'll have them tailored to fit my body. I'm not getting any younger and I like buying jeans less and less every year. In fact, pants in general sorta suck for women my age. Maybe I should start my own clothing company? |
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