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The robots have become more powerful

 
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: The robots have become more powerful Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J__EWJOE5BM
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG. That's the school I almost took a job with last February! LOL!

That robot teacher looks funny, but it's proving to work. Well, it never gets tired of teaching English.
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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
OMG. That's the school I almost took a job with last February! LOL!

That robot teacher looks funny, but it's proving to work. Well, it never gets tired of teaching English.


I dunno, when I saw the video I thought a) the Daleks have conquered Korea and b) fail.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a fancy conference call really. It's a skype-bot not a robo-teacher. At least a ddong-chim will deliver a 1000volts to the assailant Smile
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a terrible idea.

Private schools are already offering Skype calls on big TVs where the native teacher can use body language, and visual aids during class.

This is just a close up of someone's face reading from a script. Once the novelty of the robot wears off (15 minutes) kids will be bored.

Public school? Video showed 4 students. What happens with 40?
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make a giant candy dispenser on wheels that says "Fun, fun English." Same thing as that. But if Korean parents fall for yet another gimmick and go with these robots, they get what they deserve- kids that can't speak English.
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I most liked was how everything the "robot" said was quickly translated into Korean by someone off camera just in case the kids didn't understand.

This same technique is used by co-teachers at my school. It's great for kids who either don't speak English very well or don't really want to speak English and would rather be outside playing baseball or maybe just playing with their phone and what time is it... this class is going on long... what's for dinner?
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tjmauermann



Joined: 21 Jan 2009
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like money well spent. Kids will be speaking Englishee in no time.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tjmauermann wrote:
Looks like money well spent. Kids will be speaking Englishee in no time.


It could be cost effective. It only requires a one off purchase and the "wonamin" wired up at home in the Philippines. It could well be cheap and cost effective.
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TIME magazine's #9/50 best invention of 2010. Experts say it could phase out the flesh and blood foreign teacher altogether.

the girl speaking was not a native teacher. so how is this any different from learning from Korean English teachers? What a waste of time and money, then again, so many other things put forth by the Korean government are Smile
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Just a fancy conference call really. It's a skype-bot not a robo-teacher. At least a ddong-chim will deliver a 1000volts to the assailant Smile


LOL! That might be the only thing they learn from the teacher. Don't ddong-chim people anymore....

Seriously, what a POS. Cool concept, but I can't imagine students following this in class anymore than the DVD player. But it will probably cost a lot less than the 30,000,000+ a year they are investing in us....

The problem with so many teaching demonstrations (here and in the West) is that it is carried out in a totally unrealistic environment. Let's choose the 4 best students, put them in a room with a bunch of cameras with strangers behind them and see if they act like a normal 4th grader. Then let's base our decision off that experience.....YEAH RIGHT!

Or let's cram 30 teachers and officials in a room with the terrified hand picked ESL class. Have the teachers threaten to punish the students if they step out of line once. Then have the teachers spend 10x the normal planning time making a lesson for 2 weeks and then base policy decisions off of it.

Put a camera in the room, with no one else there but the teachers and the students. Don't tell the kids about it. See what it is really like and make an informed decision off of that experience.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, these robot teachers were named among Time magazine's best inventions of 2010, clearly nominated by people who know nothing about Korea's English education industry or how these robots figure into it:

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/11/time-magazine-names-koreas-english.html

One would think that considering how important English is to Korean students that policymakers would give up on these sorts of expensive, ill-advised gimmicks.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't stop laughing at this.
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SinclairLondon



Joined: 17 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when the kids get out of their seat and run around, which kids do? The answer: a Korean teacher has to be there to maintain order. So, the schools are paying for the robot itself, the native speaker on the screen, the Korean teachers and program developers. And as someone stated, what happens when you put R2-Youstudy2 in front of forty kids.
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