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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: so I have to leave early... |
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I have a great job with a public school and I'm bummed I have to leave, but I have an interview for my top choice graduate school back home and I can't miss it. That is not what I need advice about, so please don't tell me to stay. I've thought about it a lot, and that decision is made. I have other interviews that will probably extend through late Jan/Feb, so I doubt my school will want me back if I need to take that much time off (if they do, great. I'll definitely offer to come back).
My question arises about how to tell them and what I can expect the repercussions will be. I have to leave in just over a month. My GEPIK contract says I have to give 30 days notice if I want to quit, so I have to tell them soon (this week). I am planning on leaving at the end of the December, when the kids go on their winter holiday. Since I have been here less than 6 months, I know I have to pay back my flight and my 300,000 won settlement allowance (ouch). So my questions are:
1) What about my 900,000 won security deposit. I feel like I should get that back, since I am following the contract and leaving my apartment in good shape. What do you think?
2) I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that I get paid on a prorated basis according to how many days of the month I work. True or false?
3) Can I collect my (small) pension money?
4) What is the best way/day to tell them? Any techniques for smoothing this out?
5) Am I guaranteed 30 days? Or could they decide to let me go sooner?
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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1. You should get that back but some schools tend to treat the deposit as a penalty. Call the liaison officer (?) if that should happen.
2. I believe your contract should state this...that you get paid on a prorated basis.
3. Yes. you can collect on pension.
4. This depends largely on your individual school and the attitudes of your co-teachers/VP/Principal. Generally speaking I doubt your explanation about the graduate school will smooth things over...if you didn't tell them beforehand. |
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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, i figured they are going to be upset. One last question:
Does that 30 days notice go both ways? I mean, can they tell me to leave before the 30 days are up? I assume they won't since I would be staying until the kids go on holiday, but I am just wondering. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you are at all worried about not getting your security deposit back, and do not ever want to return to Korea - and you are sure you've been accepted to grad school - you could:
1) work out your incoming flight to Korea & your unpaid utilities
2) deduct the 900,000 won security deposit
3) pay the school all monies owed on your next payday
4) Leave Korea after your payday.
You won't get a reference. You will be unpopular, but you will not leave Korea being owed any money. Not to sure if this strategy will get you your pension back though.
Good luck at grad school. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you have to give a 30 day notice, then working 31 or more while they get a replacement is at least a sign you are willing to work with them. So pose the problem to them this way, "I need to continue my studies and was just accepted to yadda yadda graduate program back in the states (or wherever it is). This is my 30 day notice, but I don't start until (start time - 1 month at least). This should give you plenty of time to find a replacement. I really enjoy working here and will help you in any way to get a replacement."
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2) I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that I get paid on a prorated basis according to how many days of the month I work. True or false? |
When I worked for GEPIK, it was monthly. So, no need to prorate stuff until the final month where you might not work a full month. Again, see how they deal with the news of you leaving. I usually soften the blow by offering to work after some period without pay. I have never had problems quitting and getting a new school.
You want to find out their reaction YESTERDAY, because if they decide to hold back any money then you need to take a different course of action while you are in Korea. Personally, if they gave back the 900,000 and paid up to some date, I wouldn't do anything about the other days.
You should also look for a place to move to. With this option, you can move out of the GEPIK place while you finalize things. You can then be more in a position to collect on your 900,000. I got a goshiwon when transitioning from a hagwon to my GEPIK job. If they pay you after the move out and you are still teaching with them, then that money pays for the rent and you know you already got your 900,000 + previous months of salary from them while still in Korea. |
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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
1. You should get that back but some schools tend to treat the deposit as a penalty. Call the liaison officer (?) if that should happen. |
What's a liason officer? Does that work? How long does it take? I assume since this is a government job that they should be going by the book (hopefully)? Also, I came through a recruiter so I assume they paid the recruiter something. Are they going to charge me for that? Is that legal? |
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sara210
Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I also have to do this, but at the end of May! So I'd be really grateful if you could update on the situation and let us know!  |
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ninerfan36
Joined: 01 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="sara210"]I also have to do this, but at the end of May! So I'd be really grateful if you could update on the situation and let us know! [/quote]
will do. wish me luck. I'm going to tell them Thursday, and make sure we are on the same page about the 900,000 won. This is not going to be fun |
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sara210
Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! Good luck! I had a job get offered to me that starts in June, and I just can't turn it down.
To be honest I was going to lie and say someone is sick, Iknow its a bad lie, but I feel like they can relate to family ties more as a reason to go.
If your school has been good with money and stuff to date then I can't see any reason for them to screw you over now, especially if you offer to work 5 or 6 weeks past.
I don't know about cancelling on you within the 30 days, I guess if they told you to go, you'd just have to. Legal or not, your life would be hell. But I think if you approach it in the right way i.e desperately sorry then you might be ok.
They shouldn't take anything for your recruiting fee. Actually most recruiters will offer a replacement for free if someone quits within 6 months, so it might not even cost them any more money to get a new teacher. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: On the mainland again
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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sara210 wrote: |
They shouldn't take anything for your recruiting fee. Actually most recruiters will offer a replacement for free if someone quits within 6 months, so it might not even cost them any more money to get a new teacher. |
I thought recruiters had to pay back the recruitment fee from either PS or a Hagwon if anyone ,effectively, does a runner within 6 months.
So the recruiter is basically doing their job for free for providing a damaged/substandard/inadequate article in the first place.
This does not include those who pull a runner because of dodgy and/or unsavory hagwons or PS's. In those cases the recruiter deserves to lose all their money for sending some poor lamb to the slaughter, metorphorically speaking off course  |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:49 am Post subject: Re: so I have to leave early... |
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lex3 wrote: |
I have a great job with a public school and I'm bummed I have to leave, but I have an interview for my top choice graduate school back home and I can't miss it. That is not what I need advice about, so please don't tell me to stay. I've thought about it a lot, and that decision is made. I have other interviews that will probably extend through late Jan/Feb, so I doubt my school will want me back if I need to take that much time off (if they do, great. I'll definitely offer to come back).
My question arises about how to tell them and what I can expect the repercussions will be. I have to leave in just over a month. My GEPIK contract says I have to give 30 days notice if I want to quit, so I have to tell them soon (this week). I am planning on leaving at the end of the December, when the kids go on their winter holiday. Since I have been here less than 6 months, I know I have to pay back my flight and my 300,000 won settlement allowance (ouch). So my questions are:
1) What about my 900,000 won security deposit. I feel like I should get that back, since I am following the contract and leaving my apartment in good shape. What do you think?
2) I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that I get paid on a prorated basis according to how many days of the month I work. True or false?
3) Can I collect my (small) pension money?
4) What is the best way/day to tell them? Any techniques for smoothing this out?
5) Am I guaranteed 30 days? Or could they decide to let me go sooner? |
1) you will get your deposit back (less any outstanding charges on your apartment - like utilities or management fees.
2) yes, your pay will be pro-rated. days from start of month to end date/divided by days of the month times salary so if you leave on the 24th you would get 24/31 * salary.
3) Yes. You need to show your exit ticket, ARC and bank information at home and the NPS will forward it to you about 30 days after you leave.
4) Tell them straight up and honestly. You were accepted to graduate school and have to leave. They will be unhappy but it is an acceptable answer to the "required" why are you leaving question.
5) They could decide to let you go sooner (since classes are realistically ended after the exams at the beginning of Dec.) but probably won't.
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: |
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What is it in?
Stanford offers Masters Degrees' via distance learning. |
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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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wow. update:
So I just told my school, straight up, that I was interviewing for medical schools in the United States. My interview came much earlier than I expected at one of my top choice schools, and I would basically have to leave once the kids go on winter holiday (my interview was actually much earlier than that, but I got it pushed back until then). I will have to be home for an indefinite period of time. I would probably be done in February, before second semester began, but I can't guarantee that. And you know what their response was? "OK".
They said I have 18 vacation days left and after that it would be unpaid leave. I assumed in the outside chance they would let me come back that it would be ALL unpaid! They also said to email them as soon as I found out my interview dates. If it extended too far into the new semester (which begins in march), they MIGHT have to start looking for a new English teacher! They told me that I was young, and that I should follow my dreams. They said it was great that I got an interview at a good school, and they hoped I got in!
Moral of the story (at least for me), just be honest. I gave them 30 days notice in case they wanted to find a new English teacher immediately, but they don't. The only downside in all this is that the other foreign language teacher at my school has to teach winter camp by herself. She is a little bummed, but she is also happy for me. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: On the mainland again
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Good skills!
I must admit both times I've left my jobs here in Korea, the honest approach has worked. I have also received best wishes for my future and been told that I'm welcome back anytime.
Career advancement is seen very positively, there hasn't been any form of guilt laid upon me.
Good luck with your interview |
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