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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: ATEK Forums Closed? |
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The ATEK website was down for a day. Now it is back up but they removed the log in function and no longer allow public posting.
Anyone know what is going on? |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| If a tree falls in the woods and... |
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hallazgo
Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| exactly...no one really cares what ATEK does - or rather doesn't - do |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:16 am Post subject: |
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You jinxed them TJ  |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| hallazgo wrote: |
| exactly...no one really cares what ATEK does - or rather doesn't - do |
I'm sure someone cares. I do find it odd that a teacher's organization with supposedly 1000~1300 members loses its main communication outlet and there is not a peep about it for four days on arguably the most active ESL forum in Korea. |
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hallazgo
Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Its that "supposedly" that is the key. They took any name of any person who professed an interest in merely reading their site as called them "members" even when their membership rules clearly stated that other criteria was required. I highly doubt that there's more than a couple hundred.
I tried to organize a local chapter and they gave me names of people who "were interested in forming" and nearly every single one of them just said they logged in to read an article. Later ATEK claimed a group existed where there wasn't one.
I have zero faith in their ability to count accurately. And even less faith in their ability to do anything worthwhile |
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hallazgo
Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: |
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just got an email today as to why they were closed:
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Dear ATEK Members:
Some of you are wondering why ATEK's forums shut down for nearly a week, and the website closed for a day. First of all, as ATEK's President, I would like to apologize if any of you were inconvenienced by this.
The closing of the website and forums was the result of a series of communications between the ATEK's National Council, the National Executive, and the Ethics Committee, during which Ethics defended ATEK's Bylaws, the National Council defended their autonomy, the National Executive took sides. During this, communications became increasingly personal and unproductive. The Internal Communications Officer, who is responsible for effective communication among ATEK officers, shut down communications, believing that the e-mail and comment forum communications in progress had ceased to be productive.
A situation like this teaches an organization how to become stronger. While ATEK's leadership bodies, the National Executive, the National Council, and the Ethics Committee, are now taking steps toward reconciliation and preventing a recurrence of this kind of situation, I would like to assure you that, as President, the integrity of the Association is important to me, and that means there must be accountability.
It was disappointing to see a breakdown in communication between ATEK officers. To restore integrity, I have asked Tom Rainey-Smith, ATEK's first President, to conduct an informal investigation into the communication breakdown we have had. He will investigate the causes of the problems we have had and make recommendations to discipline those officers who were acting outside their duties, or outside common courtesy, as well as make recommendations to prevent a recurrence of this situation. As a former president of ATEK, Tom has demonstrated a vested interest in ATEK�s success, and he has demonstrated his integrity and passion to help ATEK accomplish its mission. I trust him to make recommendations that will help ATEK grow as an organization.
In the meantime, I am asking the Bodies of the Association: the National Council, the National Executive, and the Ethics Committee, to go back to ATEK's Bylaws, our constitution, and write a report explaining their understanding of how this conflict got out of hand and how they understand their roles and responsibilities within the framework of ATEK, as described in our Bylaws. Nobody in ATEK is above the Bylaws, and it is only by restoring integrity and by renewing our respect for the Bylaws and for the other officers and Bodies of the Association that ATEK will become a stronger organization than it is today.
In solidarity
Jae
Jaehee Oh
President
ATEK
[email protected] |
Apparently they were fighting amongst themselves and reaching beyond courteousness as they did so. I can't help but snicker |
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gypsymaria
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I got that email, too.
I got a good chuckle out of the "BRB, CLOSED FOR FLAMEWARS, LOL".  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Who is this Jaehee Oh fellow?
I thought Stephanie White was the ATEK president? |
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eslwriter
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Location: A dot on the planet with an exaggerated sense of importance.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Councils. committees and an executive?
I had no idea that ATEK was such an august body with a complex organizational chart. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Now thats the quality of leadership I want to see speak for all of us. |
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