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morrisonhotel
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| wiganer wrote: |
But Chinese and TESOL from Salford is a good, solid degree with a lot of opportunities for you in the future seeing how TESOL is booming allover Asia. (especially China) I also like you attitude about going to the best place to study be damned the cost. If that is England then so be it.  |
Personally, though this is just advice, I would recommend that if you have the grades go to Aberdeen (or Stirling) over Salford then do a TESOL/CELTA. You will save money by doing a degree in Scotland and Salford isn't really up to much in terms of reputation. If you intend staying in education until the day you retire, I guess it's not that important. If you choose to go in to another field, Aberdeen will look better on your CV. |
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wiganer
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| wiganer wrote: |
But Chinese and TESOL from Salford is a good, solid degree with a lot of opportunities for you in the future seeing how TESOL is booming allover Asia. (especially China) I also like you attitude about going to the best place to study be damned the cost. If that is England then so be it. |
Personally, though this is just advice, I would recommend that if you have the grades go to Aberdeen (or Stirling) over Salford then do a TESOL/CELTA. You will save money by doing a degree in Scotland and Salford isn't really up to much in terms of reputation. If you intend staying in education until the day you retire, I guess it's not that important. If you choose to go in to another field, Aberdeen will look better on your CV. |
I went to a decent university (University of Wales, Swansea) and I have found - especially in Asia and the middle east - if you didn't go to Oxford or Cambridge (The Americans - the Ivy League) then wherever you went has the same gravitas - wherever it is Aberdeen or Salford, it matters not! I know it is the oldest university in Scotland and has a good reputation in our country but it is no good going there if it doesn't have the degree she wants to do. If you did a degree in say - history and a 4 week CELTA - forget working for the British council, working in the middle east or having any chance at any decent job paying good money out here. (Unless you get a MA TESOL which is another year and another 5 grand - and Aberdeen doesn't do it! So you will have to go to England and pay for it anyway)
If your ambition is to be an English teacher abroad - then get the foundations right and get the right BA degree - that is my advice for sure! |
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morrisonhotel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| wiganer wrote: |
I went to a decent university (University of Wales, Swansea) and I have found - especially in Asia and the middle east - if you didn't go to Oxford or Cambridge (The Americans - the Ivy League) then wherever you went has the same gravitas - wherever it is Aberdeen or Salford, it matters not! I know it is the oldest university in Scotland and has a good reputation in our country but it is no good going there if it doesn't have the degree she wants to do. If you did a degree in say - history and a 4 week CELTA - forget working for the British council, working in the middle east or having any chance at any decent job paying good money out here. (Unless you get a MA TESOL which is another year and another 5 grand - and Aberdeen doesn't do it! So you will have to go to England and pay for it anyway)
If your ambition is to be an English teacher abroad - then get the foundations right and get the right BA degree - that is my advice for sure! |
The only issue is that the Salford course isn't a QTS. If you're planning on teaching in the long-run then I would reckon doing a QTS course then a TESOL certificate would make more sense.
You could always do the MA in TESOL at Edinburgh.
*Aberdeen is Scotland's fourth oldest university. St. Andrews is the oldest. |
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languistic
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Very confused |
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I am an 18 year girl in Scotland.
I'm a current Photography student (and I finish in 2012) and I'd like to go into teaching in Korea but I don't know what grades I'd need and what course to do in college or university. I left school at 16 to do Photography and Fashion in college, but recently my heart yearns for English Teaching in foreign countries.
If anybody in the UK can help me or guide me to what universities and what courses (Do I do English or Teaching?) would best suit someone just starting out from spending years doing another thing?
I've searched and searched but I end up getting lost. |
I suggest English, for a few reasons. |
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wiganer
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
The only issue is that the Salford course isn't a QTS. If you're planning on teaching in the long-run then I would reckon doing a QTS course then a TESOL certificate would make more sense.
You could always do the MA in TESOL at Edinburgh.
*Aberdeen is Scotland's fourth oldest university. St. Andrews is the oldest. |
The only degrees that offer QTS are education degrees, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to do an education degree as that would open quite a few doors abroad (international schools, public school jobs in Taiwan, Abu Dhabi, Brunei) but apart from that - Linguistics/TEFL degrees are the way to go if you want to teach English for a living abroad. I think it is fair to say most people who end up in Korea stumbled their way into teaching with unrelated degrees (now moreso than ever) but I would never suggest to anyone if they want to teach English just to do any degree (then get a four week CELTA) because the Korean government have a very low bar in regards qualifications. Not everywhere has the same slack standards as Korea - to work for the British council - you need a linguistics/TEFL degree or/and MA TESOL, same with the middle east, same with any good university position anywhere in the world.
I stand corrected about Aberdeen being the oldest university in Scotland but it matters not - it has no international prestige and the sad fact is - if an employer looking for a TEFL teacher outside the UK looks at two CV's -
a graduate of history from Aberdeen and a Linguistics/TEFL graduate from the university of Huddersfield - you know and I know it matters not one jot what reputation Aberdeen has - that CV is going straight into the bin.
As for the MA TESOL degree in Edinburgh - she will still have to hand over five grand. Except for the debt. There is nothing wrong in going to England or Wales to do your degree there where there is more choice to do what you want. |
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