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batman
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Oh so close to where I want to be
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When I was teaching children I made washing hands a prize for getting their work done properly and for winning at games.
The younger kids (5,6,7) really enjoyed it and would often end up running to the washroom 2 or 3 times per class to wash their hands.
As for the butt-scratching ajuma thing, I must say I saw much worse while cooking my way through highschool and college. |
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maxxx_power
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Location: BWAHAHAHAHA! I'M FREE!!!!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:18 am Post subject: |
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I know what you mean. Working with disease riddled kindy kids has taught me to stash antibacterial soap in my classroom.
Out and about in this country is like rolling the dice as far as cleanliness goes. It's rather disgusting to get home and wash your hands after riding the subway or whatever and seeing the grey shit come off your hands. |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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i would say that about 90 - 95% of cake soap being used is not antibacterial.
i'm safe, all the vodka i drink kills anything, probably me soon too |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: ... |
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sorry about my last post.
i didn't realise that all soap didn't kill nasty germs. i'm off to buy some anti-bacterial soap right now for school.
the first resturaunt i worked in when i was a teenager was a good lesson for the rest of my life. the head chef was a handwashing nazi. if he saw you touch your face, money, a client or clean a table without washing your hands, he'd chase you around screaming until you did. ok, he didn't scream, but that stayed with me forever. he was paraniod about germs, i wish more resturaunt staff were like that. |
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JackSarang
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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People don't wash their hands because they might piss on them, urine is 100% sterile. Its because the genitals are crawling with bacteria, constantly. No amount of washing will change that. Women don't really need to wash their hands, unless, y'know, they give themselves a little diddle down there during the business. Guys wouldn't either if they held their wang with a tissue or just dropped trough and went hands free.
As to soap...
From wikipedia.org:
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Soaps are useful and used primarily for cleansing because soap molecules attach readily to both nonpolar molecules (such as grease or oil) and polar molecules (such as water). Although grease will normally adhere to skin or clothing, the soap molecules can attach to it as a "handle" and make it easier to rinse away.
The hydrocarbon ("fatty") portion dissolves dirt and oils, while the ionic end makes it soluble in water. Thus, it allows water to remove normally-insoluble matter. |
So while soap itself doesn't kill germs it rinses them off your hands, something water alone cannot do. With that said, anti-bacterial soaps are the biggest scam ever. All they do is promote stronger more resistent strains. If you people are so germ phobic why don't you put yourself on a course of anti-biotics 24-7.
The absence of germ contact actually weakens your immune system because it has no chance to build up a resistence. The human body is remarkably adept at fighting off foreign invaders. Nothing wrong with keeping normal hygeine but going nutbar over it borders on something clinical.
Besides, some doctors are even advocating eating your boogers to stay healthy: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_903083.html?menu=news.quirkies |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Perhaps a better question is not why Koreans don't wash their hands, but why, if they DON'T in fact wash their hands in the restrooms, why is the sink area constantly covered in pools of water?  |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: |
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I read a report that stated that there are typically more germs on a computer keyboard than on a toilet bowl. Just think of the daily dose of germs we must be getting. Our immune systems probably resemble Superman's by now.  |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| JackSarang wrote: |
| With that said, anti-bacterial soaps are the biggest scam ever. All they do is promote stronger more resistent strains. |
of what?
the queensland health department strongly suggested that i use antibacterial soap in my restaurant (kitchen). not that it really matters.. all germs are killed when they reach a certain temperature.
these guys dont just do stuff for fun.
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| Its because the genitals are crawling with bacteria, constantly. |
not mine.. i washed all that green stuff away (with antibacterial soap) when i showered last month.
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Soaps are useful and used primarily for cleansing because soap molecules attach readily to both nonpolar molecules (such as grease or oil) and polar molecules (such as water). Although grease will normally adhere to skin or clothing, the soap molecules can attach to it as a "handle" and make it easier to rinse away.
The hydrocarbon ("fatty") portion dissolves dirt and oils, while the ionic end makes it soluble in water. Thus, it allows water to remove normally-insoluble matter. |
great but it mentions nothing of germs. all soap does is rinse off oily stuffs. it doesn't kill or remove germs.
if you use antibacterial soap the germs remain but they (most) are dead and harmless.
these are things that i learned whilst i was a restaurateur.
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| Perhaps a better question is not why Koreans don't wash their hands, but why, if they DON'T in fact wash their hands in the restrooms, why is the sink area constantly covered in pools of water? |
ya got me.. i'm baffled
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| I read a report that stated that there are typically more germs on a computer keyboard than on a toilet bowl. |
i'll certainly agree there.. what about the keyboard of a supermarket, touching all that money? what about all that money?
there are thing we do and use everyday that we don't even consider to be a threat.. but..... |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| What about the waterless hand-sanitizer ("kills 99.9% of germs")? I've read that its downsides but I still use the stuff at work because no one seems to stock the bathroom with soap. |
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JackSarang
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| JackSarang wrote: |
| With that said, anti-bacterial soaps are the biggest scam ever. All they do is promote stronger more resistent strains. |
More resistent strains of bacteria. Resistent to anti-biotics and anti-bacterial soap detergents.
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| the queensland health department strongly suggested that i use antibacterial soap in my restaurant (kitchen). not that it really matters.. all germs are killed when they reach a certain temperature. |
They're simply being extra cautious. Anti-bacterial soaps have only been marketed in the last ten years or so. Prior to that what? All kitchens were cess-pools? We did fine before then. I don't see any dramatic decrease in bacterium related illnesses since its inception.
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| Its because the genitals are crawling with bacteria, constantly. |
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| not mine.. i washed all that green stuff away (with antibacterial soap) when i showered last month. |
Ok, so we've established you're the one human who doesn't produce bacteria every day.
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great but it mentions nothing of germs. all soap does is rinse off oily stuffs. it doesn't kill or remove germs.
if you use antibacterial soap the germs remain but they (most) are dead and harmless. |
Yeah, soap rinses off the oily stuff to which the bacteria adhere to your skin. Thus removing them from your skin.
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| these are things that i learned whilst i was a restaurateur. |
Apparently you also learned that restaurants couldn't possibly safely exist prior to the miraculous advent of antibacterial soaps. However we propagated as a species remains a mystery. |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| JackSarang wrote: |
| They're simply being extra cautious. Anti-bacterial soaps have only been marketed in the last ten years or so. Prior to that what? All kitchens were cess-pools? We did fine before then. I don't see any dramatic decrease in bacterium related illnesses since its inception. |
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| Apparently you also learned that restaurants couldn't possibly safely exist prior to the miraculous advent of antibacterial soaps. However we propagated as a species remains a mystery. |
I know more about food preparation that you could ever hope to.
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| the queensland health department strongly suggested that i use antibacterial soap in my restaurant (kitchen). not that it really matters.. all germs are killed when they reach a certain temperature. |
most every dangerous germ is killed @ 180c. i could pull a lump of turd from my ass, roll it up in your deep fried meatball and cook it for you and serve it... perfectly harmless
hows the job going mate?
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Either way, whether the last person who used the restroom washed his/her hands or not, if you catch the remaining odor of the business they left, you're pretty much screwed anyway. In order to smell it, the molecules must come in contact with your olfactory lobes, and if they get that far, just imagine all the things you are breathing in...
I feel that, if your hands don't stink and there isn't any visible or feel-able (i.e. sticky) residue on them, just assume they're clean. Don't expect others to be concerned about their hygeine before they shake your hand. I'm not one for destiny and predetermination, but, if you get a disease from someone's dirty hands and subsequently die, maybe it's just they way you were meant to go... |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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dude!
wash that sh*t!! >:O |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Cause they've learned not to whazz on their hands? |
Maybe not on their hands, but a lot of it sure ends up on the floor.
But the hand-washing thing should be a must after #2, no?
ObDisclaimer: Not that this isn't a problem elsewhere. |
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