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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| oldfatfarang wrote: |
| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| Finally, yours is the standard fallacy: the Eurocentric Second World War. The Americans singlehandedly defeated the Japanese empire in the Pacific theater |
You really are as ignorant as you appear. Please try to learn some history before commenting on it. |
| mateomiguel wrote: |
| Just try to imagine New Zealand, Australia, England, or (god forbid) Canada taking a political stance significantly different from US foreign policy (or domestic for that matter). Congress would come down on them like a ton of bricks. |
Not only can I imagine it, it has happened. In 1985 New Zealand declared itself nuclear-free. A sovereign country making an independent decision without the approval of America, and against the wishes of America, was such a shock that America has consistently (until now) tried to bully New Zealand into doing exactly what America wants. And New Zealand has never backed down. Ah, yes, America the defender of freedom and democracy. What a crock. |
Thanks for that Sleepy in Seoul. I'm sure that most recently graduated 22 year old Americans simply have no idea how their government bullies it's 'allies' (trade deals, open markets etc). |
I know, I know. Tragic, isn't it? |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yes a tradgedy. Just imagine a world where young Americans were never lectured by commonwealth types about crap that they probably dont care about or already know. A world where some half educated know it all doe"snt bend your ear with a lot of half truths or nationalistic nonsense. A beautiful world.
Gotta love the assumption , apparently it must be taught in schools in some countries , that it is their mission to "educate" Americans. |
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Fat_Elvis
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: In the ghetto
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
Yes a tradgedy. Just imagine a world where young Americans were never lectured by commonwealth types about crap that they probably dont care about or already know. A world where some half educated know it all doe"snt bend your ear with a lot of half truths or nationalistic nonsense. A beautiful world.
Gotta love the assumption , apparently it must be taught in schools in some countries , that it is their mission to "educate" Americans. |
Stop voting warmongers into power and it might stop. |
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trogdor
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Fat_Elvis wrote: |
| Stop voting warmongers into power and it might stop. |
Gotta be fair here. Gore won the popular vote. The system needs an overhaul, but only about half of America voted for the warmonger. Most of those war loving folk are the same ones who don't have a passport and aren't here. "Leave 'merica? Hell no!!!!" |
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tottenhamtaipeinick
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I cant understand why this is 10 pages...What is everyone talking about? Where exactly is America? I have heard of Americano but thats a type of coffee isnt it? |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| oldfatfarang wrote: |
| Sleepy in Seoul wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
| Finally, yours is the standard fallacy: the Eurocentric Second World War. The Americans singlehandedly defeated the Japanese empire in the Pacific theater |
You really are as ignorant as you appear. Please try to learn some history before commenting on it.
| mateomiguel wrote: |
| Just try to imagine New Zealand, Australia, England, or (god forbid) Canada taking a political stance significantly different from US foreign policy (or domestic for that matter). Congress would come down on them like a ton of bricks. |
Not only can I imagine it, it has happened. In 1985 New Zealand declared itself nuclear-free. A sovereign country making an independent decision without the approval of America, and against the wishes of America, was such a shock that America has consistently (until now) tried to bully New Zealand into doing exactly what America wants. And New Zealand has never backed down. Ah, yes, America the defender of freedom and democracy. What a crock. |
Thanks for that Sleepy in Seoul. I'm sure that most recently graduated 22 year old Americans simply have no idea how their government bullies it's 'allies' (trade deals, open markets etc). |
Your people might not like it, but your governments bend over backwards for FTAs. But yeah, it's America "bullying" New Zealand. Tell your politicians to grow a spine then. You won't, though. And we won't tell our politicians to stop making war.
Why blame the people in either case?
And I'm sure most 22 year old Americans know about FTAs and the lowest common denominator. I thought you were being tongue in cheek at first.
But it's cute/quaint that patriotic (a trait that Americans and Koreans are oft derided for but seems to be a virtue if you're from some sad shire) Sleepy thinks his country is "sticking it to the man" or is in any way important. Hell, even Australians can't be bothered to pay attention to New Zealand. |
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