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[darkjedidave]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/11/tsa-investigating-passenger/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15/john-tyner-videos_n_783678.html

It was only a matter of time until someone flipped out over this. Full body scans that leave nothing to the imagination, and now groin checks?

[Gom]

Does this 'enhanced pat down' apply to both men and women?

[ThingsComeAround]

depends who is patting me down

[darkjedidave]

[Fox]

The massively undignified policy of scanning or physically searching passengers is bad enough, but the really horrific thing in my estimation is this:

[Space Bar]

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 is NATIONAL OPT-OUT DAY!

It's the day ordinary citizens stand up for their rights, stand up for liberty, and protest the federal government's desire to virtually strip us naked or submit to an "enhanced pat down" that touches people's breasts and genitals in an aggressive manner. You should never have to explain to your children, "Remember that no stranger can touch or see your private area, unless it's a government employee, then it's OK."

The goal of National Opt Out Day is to send a message to our lawmakers that we demand change. We have a right to privacy and buying a plane ticket should not mean that we're guilty until proven innocent. This day is needed because many people do not understand what they consent to when choosing to fly.

Here are the details:

Who?
You, your family and friends traveling by air on Wednesday, November 24, 2010. Remember too, as the TSA says, "Everyday is opt-out day." That is, you can opt out any time you fly.

What?
National Opt-Out Day. You have the right to opt-out of the naked body scanner machines (AIT, or Advance Imaging Technology, as the government calls it). All you have to do is say "I opt out" when they tell you to go through one of the machines. You will then be given an "enhanced" pat down. This is a right given to you by the TSA.

Where?
At an airport near you!

When?
Wednesday, November 24, 2010. We want families to sit around the dinner table, eating turkey, talking about their experience - what constitutes an unreasonable search, how forceful of a pat down will we allow on certain areas of our body, and that of our children, and how much privacy are we will to give up for flying? We hope the experience then propels people to write their Member of Congress and the airlines to demand change.

Why?
The government should not have the ability to virtually strip search anyone it wants without cause. The problem has been compounded in that if you do not want to go through the body scanner, the TSA has made the alternative perhaps even worse by instituting "enhanced" pat downs. There are reports from travelers across the country about how the TSA now touches the genitals and private areas of men, women and children in a much more aggressive manner. We do not believe the government has a right to see you naked or aggressively touch you just because you bought an airline ticket.

How?
By saying "I opt out" when told to go through the body imaging machines and submitting to a pat down. Also, be sure to have your pat down by TSA in full public - do not go to the back room when asked. Every citizen must see for themselves how the TSA treats law-abiding citizens.

[Panda]

.It depends on which you give a primary importance.

Your privacy or your security.


I don't think any officers in the airport ENJOY touching anybody's junk, obviously this is the painful choice of the government. (even there is single time the officer let a terrorist pass, the whole country will blame the government).

To me this guy is a waste of tax payers' time and money. America should spend more time doing something else more important...( dont tell me its for liberty, thats illusion, you never satisfy everyone).

I kinda think it bullshit once you are a lawyer, you sue everything that has two legs... all you want is actually some public attention and a reputation for a good lawyer ( and no body can blame you becasue you are a fighter for justice and liberty, oh yeah~!)

[bucheon bum]

TSA is incompetent. Last month I took a trip to New Orleans with my gf at the time. Her last name on the airline ticket was wrong. It wasn't even remotely close to the last name on her ID. No one said anything or questioned her, she just walked on through. So FYI to Al-Qaeda: recruit short, chubby hispanic women! TSA won't notice them apparently.

The only times I've been taken aside by the TSA was once when I had a few rolls of quarters in my carry-on (super dangerous!) and when I had a tube of toothpaste with bengali writing on it. It was more than the 3 oz. allowed but since it didn't list ounces, the TSA dude let me keep it. I have a hunch if I weren't a pale face and/or my name was Mohammed, I wouldn't have been as fortunate.

[madoka]

Thank you Muslim extremists!

[Fox]

[Pikkle]

[jvalmer]

They should invite those guys running the airport in Tel Aviv to show them how airport security is really done. I also think it would help if airport security guys were actual professionals, instead of some guy who applied for the job.

[darkjedidave]

[Confused Canadian]

Interesting coincidence that I stumbled on this post this morning after reading this thread. Think it's from 2002...

http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstuff/penniphile/roadpennfederalvip.html

[T-J]

So what would happen if you get to security and stripped down naked?

I'm tempted to fly wearing a bathrobe, slippers and nothing else. As soon as I hit the security screening area the bathrobe and the slippers go in the bin.

"Just trying to make your job easier"