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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:27 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
Next, we come to Axiom's, a most prolific poster, article about how the rain forest used to be...
This argument goes...oh, it's that same Earth's-preferred-state argument. Antarctica used to be tropical. So what? If Antarctica's going to become tropical again, then we'd better get on the horn to the Maldives to work that all out.
Then, we have the climate change museum closing...
Why is there a climate change museum to begin with?
Hmm, the climate change museum closes, but the global academies of sciences maintain their position?
Why are you telling us about this?
This is a message board for language teachers.
If the climate museum closing is genuinely significant, then you also alerted the national academies of science, right?
I mean, otherwise, telling a linguistics forum that they have their geology and meteorology wrong is something akin to fighting social injustice at a culinary school.
And that's why I'll leave it elsewhere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
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Change that, or else you're just talking.
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It seems you must be reading a different article from the one I posted. I've scanned but but I can't find anything about Antarctica. It's just an article about addressing an exaggertion by the warmist alarmist.
Also I don't recall posting any articles about a climate change museum closing. I agree with you. I wouldn't give a ****. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:37 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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One mukluk disappears and another emerges. |
What's a mukluk. Should I be offended? |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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More on the Maldives.
www.climatechangefacts.info/.../NilsAxelMornerinterview.pdf
Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud
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Then we went to the Maldives. I traced a drop in sea level in the 1970s, and the fishermen told me, �Yes, you are correct, because we remember��things in their sailing routes have changed, things in their harbor have changed.
I worked in the lagoon, I drilled in the sea, I drilled in lakes, I looked at the shore morphology�so many different environments. Always the same thing: In about 1970, the sea fell about 20 cm, for reasons involving probably evaporation or something. Not a change in volume or something like that�it was a rapid thing. The new level, which has been stable, has not changed in the last 35 years. You can trace it so very, very carefully. No rise at all is the answer there. |
Nowhere Man wrote
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| Have you ever been to the Maldives? |
No. Have you?
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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Is this base, which I have just established, of experts in the field from all parts of the globe changing?
There is a simple answer to this: Yes or No.
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I think the answer is Yes.
From your own link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
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| The Royal Society of the United Kingdom has not changed its concurring stance. According to the Telegraph, "The most prestigious group of scientists in the country was forced to act after forty-three fellows complained that "uncertainty in the debate" over man made global warming were not being communicated to the public."[26] In May 2010, it announced that it "is presently drafting a new public facing document on climate change, to provide an updated status report on the science in an easily accessible form, also addressing the levels of certainty of key components."[27] The society says that it is three years since the last such document was published and that, after an extensive process of debate and review,[28][29] the new document was printed in September 2010 and better defines the areas where the science is settled as well as areas where there is still on going debate. The society has stated that "this is not the same as saying that the climate science itself is in error � no Fellows have expressed such a view to the RS". |
Further...
http://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1617-royal-society-bows-to-climate-change-sceptics.html
Royal Society Bows To Climate Change Sceptics
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Britain�s leading scientific institution has been forced to rewrite its guide to climate change and admit that there is greater uncertainty about future temperature increases than it had previously suggested.
The Royal Society is publishing a new document today after a rebellion by more than 40 of its fellows who questioned mankind�s contribution to rising temperatures.
Climate change: a summary of the science states that �some uncertainties are unlikely ever to be significantly reduced�. Unlike Climate change controversies, a simple guide � the document it replaces � it avoids making predictions about the impact of climate change and refrains from advising governments about how they should respond. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: ... |
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re: The Maldives-Yes
re: mukluks-No
re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
What you've shown is the UK withdrawing additional commentary, not a withdrawal from their stance.
But, rather than a bunch of people on a board talking trash (on either side), why not just watch this ball?
Of course, that doesn't make for much hubris, but again, perhaps the days of the WWF-style CE forum are behind us.
At the very least, I can't be bothered to descend all nine levels with every single mukluk who shows up here. That was 2004. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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re: The Maldives-Yes
re: mukluks-No
re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
What you've shown is the UK withdrawing additional commentary, not a withdrawal from their stance.
But, rather than a bunch of people on a board talking trash (on either side), why not just watch this ball?
Of course, that doesn't make for much hubris, but again, perhaps the days of the WWF-style CE forum are behind us.
Obviously the only trustworthy people are lobbyists like the one mentioned
At the very least, I can't be bothered to descend all nine levels with every single mukluk who shows up here. That was 2004. |
Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars who have been personally brainwashed by Al Gore, the Antichrist.
Obviously the only trustworthy people are lobbyists like the ones mentioned here:
http://www.energyboom.com/policy/european-big-oil-and-polluting-companies-are-funding-tea-party-climate-change-lobbyists-us-se
Or groups funded by Exxon, those kind of organizations are sure to be impartial:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/sep/20/oilandpetrol.business |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
re: The Maldives-Yes
re: mukluks-No
re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
What you've shown is the UK withdrawing additional commentary, not a withdrawal from their stance.
But, rather than a bunch of people on a board talking trash (on either side), why not just watch this ball?
Of course, that doesn't make for much hubris, but again, perhaps the days of the WWF-style CE forum are behind us.
Quote from Ottmar Edenhofer
Ottmar Edenhofer was appointed as joint chair of Working Group 3 at the Twenty-Ninth Session of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in Geneva, Switzerland. The deputy director and chief economist of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and Professor of the Economics of Climate Change at the Berlin Institute of Technology will be co-chairing the Working Group �Mitigation of Climate Change� with Ram�n Pichs Madruga from Cuba and Youba Sokona from Mali.
Obviously the only trustworthy people are lobbyists like the one mentioned
At the very least, I can't be bothered to descend all nine levels with every single mukluk who shows up here. That was 2004. |
Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars who have been personally brainwashed by Al Gore, the Antichrist.
Obviously the only trustworthy people are lobbyists like the ones mentioned here:
http://www.energyboom.com/policy/european-big-oil-and-polluting-companies-are-funding-tea-party-climate-change-lobbyists-us-se
Or groups funded by Exxon, those kind of organizations are sure to be impartial:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/sep/20/oilandpetrol.business |
ahh could you blame them
http://thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1877-ipcc-official-climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth.html
IPCC Official: �Climate Policy Is Redistributing The World's Wealth�
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Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War.
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First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole. |
So, what are we talking here. Socialisation of the world's mines. I wonder how the people with superannuation invested in BHP Billiton will feel about this.
Quote from Ottmar Edenhofer
Ottmar Edenhofer was appointed as joint chair of Working Group 3 at the Twenty-Ninth Session of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in Geneva, Switzerland. The deputy director and chief economist of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and Professor of the Economics of Climate Change at the Berlin Institute of Technology will be co-chairing the Working Group �Mitigation of Climate Change� with Ram�n Pichs Madruga from Cuba and Youba Sokona from Mali. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| So never mind all the real attrocities that are going. Never mind the stunted growth, mental and physical, the blindness from lack of Vit A. Never mind the fact that the Bush administration began a war against the advice of allies, ignoring the lessons of insurgencies from the Vietnam War. Never mind Malaria. We should consider Global Warming to be a crime enacted against humanity even though over well over 90% of the scientific community says global warming is probably so. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Global warming is a bogus NWO lie. What global warming? It is colder here now than it should be. November is supposed to still be fall, but it has been colder here this year...already big coats and scarf time...well, for people like me who freeze anyways. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Of course it is a crime. any one who thinks differently than the scientific establishment should be tried convicted and executed on the spot. No appeals no protests
How dare they attack humanity!! It's inhuman!
Perhaps execution is a bit harsh but a nice long period in a place that can "educate" them properly would be appropriate. |
You mean this form of education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCd6qAia0kQ&feature=player_em
"Blood Will Be On Your Hands"
A true fundamentalist |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: ... |
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| Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars |
The wiki article doesn't reference scientists. You'd know that if you took roughly 30 seconds to click on the link before you started your Al Gore diatribe.
NWO! See? The WWF isn't dead on here yet!
Redistribution of wealth...
Uh, yeah.
Axiom, this is your crowd. You say nothing to correct them though I believe you see inaccuracies in what they say.
It makes for a most unintelligent dialogue that goes no further than yelling.
Later. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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| Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars |
The wiki article doesn't reference scientists. You'd know that if you took roughly 30 seconds to click on the link before you started your Al Gore diatribe.
NWO! See? The WWF isn't dead on here yet!
Redistribution of wealth...
Uh, yeah.
Axiom, this is your crowd. You say nothing to correct them though I believe you see inaccuracies in what they say.
It makes for a most unintelligent dialogue that goes no further than yelling.
Later. |
My crowd.
Judging by previous posts both asylum seeker and princess were being sarcastic.
Or maybe they are just your socks and you like talking to yourself on here. I don't know. I don't care.
And the redistribution of wealth comment came from Ottmar Edenhofer, a joint chair of one of the IPCC Working Groups. i.e a high preist
As far as I can see that's Axiom 0 Nowhere Man 3.
The only one in here yelling and bossing people around (ie telling them not to post things) is you my friend.
I won't tell you not to post but can you at least put some effort into making your posts reasonably coherent. |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars |
The wiki article doesn't reference scientists. |
That's right just a bunch of faceless men organisations with a railway engineer at the head. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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| Obviously all of the scientists mentioned in that Wiki article are liars |
The wiki article doesn't reference scientists. You'd know that if you took roughly 30 seconds to click on the link before you started your Al Gore diatribe.
NWO! See? The WWF isn't dead on here yet!
Redistribution of wealth...
Uh, yeah.
Axiom, this is your crowd. You say nothing to correct them though I believe you see inaccuracies in what they say.
It makes for a most unintelligent dialogue that goes no further than yelling.
Later. |
Sarcasm detector broken?
Er, and what do you mean it doesn't reference scientists? Are you drunk?
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Joint science academies' statements
Since 2001, 32 national science academies have come together to issue joint declarations confirming anthropogenic global warming, and urging the nations of the world to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.
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| Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch conducted a survey in August 2008 of 2058 climate scientists from 34 different countries. |
etc.
etc.
I mean, seriously? |
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lichtarbeiter
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| princess wrote: |
| Global warming is a bogus NWO lie. What global warming? It is colder here now than it should be. November is supposed to still be fall, but it has been colder here this year...already big coats and scarf time...well, for people like me who freeze anyways. |
Take a look at the words I've put in bold for you, and then perhaps take a minute to reevaluate your argument. |
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