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[beck's]

The burning of poppies is indicative of a larger and very pressing problem. In the years before WWII British school children were taught pride in their country. The 'sun never set on the British empire.' When Brits travelled the world they saw ample evidence of this. Little houses of parliament, Big Bens, railway infastructure and Victorian buildings are still scattered over the globe. Kipling and other poets like him were taught in schools. Classroom maps showed the British Commonwealth in red. Brits were proud to be Brits. They civilized the world.

WWII changed all this. A vapid multiculturalism replaced patriotism and white guilt replaced pride. The intellectual tide turned and all cultures were seen as equal. African face painting was seen as equal to a cathedral and mindless drumming equal to a symphony. I have a great neice who lives in Canada. Her kindergarden was celebrating Eid (the one just past) but her Christmas concert will not mention Jesus. To bring up Jesus at Christmas is racist. To give little kids a sanitized view of Islam is 'open.'

The ideology of multiculturalism happened at the same time as massive immigration. New immigrants were not given pride in being British but were told that they had been 'exploited' in their former countries.

People want to belong and if Britain was not going to give new immigrants a sense of belonging to a successful and innovative western society Islamic nationalism would.

These young Muslims who are burning poppies and blowing up their underwear on international flights are doing so because Britain didn't give them the benefits of assimilation. They were never taught what the poppy really means in patriotic terms and how it symbolizes the freedom that British men and women fought so hard for in two world wars. They were betrayed.

[travel zen]

[Koveras]

[wesharris]

It is human nature to conquer .
Whether this be economic, social, military, or religious.
Each man seeks his own conquest in his own way.

[beck's]

Travel Zen. I am not sure if you are just trolling or if you have the dominant left/lib narrative down pat. Far from being a REBEL my friend your views are very similar to the Afro-Marxist keptocrats that are currently dragging Africa back to the stone age. I refer here to Mugabe and his ilk.

The tribes that western nations 'conquered' during the late Renaissance and onwards, during the years of Empire, hadn't evolved in thousands of years. The North American natives are an example of this. In 3,000 years of so called civilization they had never discovered writing, metal or advanced farming. They were living lives which were short, ugly and brutal. Imagine living in an animal skin tent during a Canadian winter or better still a snow igloo in the Canadian Arctic desparately scruffling for enough to eat.

The European powers brought them metal, writing and many more of the advantages of an evolving and a progressive civilization. Europeans developed North America to the point that it is today and that is without a shadow of a doubt the most democratic and progressive civilization that the planet has ever known.

In India the British built an infastructure of road, RRs and public buildings which, in some cases, are still used today.

I could go on.

Yes, we all know that the Muslims invented zero. But, here I want you to think of just one modern invention not invented by a westerner. From the television to the space shuttle and all points in between westerners have been at the forefront of progress.

When we refuse to assimilate immigrants into the best civilization the world has ever known, when we refuse to make them feel a part of it, we do them and us a huge disservice.

[beck's]

The extent of the disservice that we do to immigrants when we refuse to assimilate them can be seen in this New York Times article on what exactly is being taught in British Muslim schools. For the faint of heart I warn you will be pretty shocking even to the most hardened multi-culti.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/world/europe/23britain.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

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[beck's]

Western civilization is more successful than any other civilization in the history of the world on any terms that we might want to use whether it be humanitarian, scientific or cultural. The average westerner, no I will say the poorest westerner, lives better than any other people in the history of man. We live longer, more healthy lives and freer lives with more opportunity than an Egyptian Pharaoh or an African chief. This is just fact. It cannot be disputed.

Your comment on Japanese inventions is well taken. I concede, the Japanese invented karoake. But westerners invented the electronics that made this possible. Ditto with Japanimation.

Yes, westerners go camping on the weekend to 'get in touch with nature.' This is a far cry from living in a tent through a Canadian winter, year after year. European civilization was much less brutish and short at the time of exploration than Native American civilization.

The negation of the superiority of western civilization on the part of the western intellecutal class is at the heart of the problems we are having integrating immigrants. We need to tell them that they will become part of the greatest human experiment in the history of man.

They know that western civ is superior. That is why they want to come here. When they get here the intellectual elite tell them that it is not. No wonder they burn poppies and try to blow up subways.

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[Mariella713]

[travel zen]

[Isehtis]

I'm British and proud of it. The more things like this happen, the more I feel sympathy for groups like the English Defence league, I'm certainly no racist/religious discriminator, but I've had to deal with groups of radical Muslims first hand in my country, and can honestly say that for me such people are unwelcome.
Mind, I say the same about extremist Jews, Hindus, Christians and all other delusions...

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