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Am I a "native speaker" ?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
As long as you don't put your place of birth on your cv then yes, if they find out you were born in another country then no, even if you left that country when you were 1 day old then they won't "consider" you a native speaker. Sure there are exceptions but ...


The place of birth is listed on the passport. Korean Immigration has its problems, of course, but it's not so incompetent as to not realize that some of us born overseas have citizenship passed onto us by our parents.
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wizo



Joined: 22 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so now I'm confused.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizo wrote:
so now I'm confused.


Checklist is simple.

a) Passport is from Canada (or one of the other "approved" 7 english speaking countries.

b) Degree is from Canada or one of the other "7".

If the answer to both A & B is yes then you are considered to be a native speaker in the eyes of immigration (the people who count).

Employers don't care as long as you are warm, white, speak
English and qualify for an E2.

If the answer to A or B is no then you are considered to NOT be a native speaker (by immigration) and you will not get a visa.

(place of birth is irrelevant).

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wizo



Joined: 22 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
wizo wrote:
so now I'm confused.


Checklist is simple.

a) Passport is from Canada (or one of the other "approved" 7 english speaking countries.

b) Degree is from Canada or one of the other "7".

If the answer to both A & B is yes then you are considered to be a native speaker in the eyes of immigration (the people who count).

Employers don't care as long as you are warm, white, speak
English and qualify for an E2.

If the answer to A or B is no then you are considered to NOT be a native speaker (by immigration) and you will not get a visa.

(place of birth is irrelevant).

.


Thank you for the clear answers.
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wizo



Joined: 22 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
wizo wrote:
so now I'm confused.


Checklist is simple.

a) Passport is from Canada (or one of the other "approved" 7 english speaking countries.

b) Degree is from Canada or one of the other "7".

If the answer to both A & B is yes then you are considered to be a native speaker in the eyes of immigration (the people who count).

Employers don't care as long as you are warm, white, speak
English and qualify for an E2.

If the answer to A or B is no then you are considered to NOT be a native speaker (by immigration) and you will not get a visa.

(place of birth is irrelevant).

.



Does this apply in Japan as well? As long as you get the visa and can speak well the employers aren't super strict about being a pure "native" speaker?
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizo wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
wizo wrote:
so now I'm confused.


Checklist is simple.

a) Passport is from Canada (or one of the other "approved" 7 english speaking countries.

b) Degree is from Canada or one of the other "7".

If the answer to both A & B is yes then you are considered to be a native speaker in the eyes of immigration (the people who count).

Employers don't care as long as you are warm, white, speak
English and qualify for an E2.

If the answer to A or B is no then you are considered to NOT be a native speaker (by immigration) and you will not get a visa.

(place of birth is irrelevant).

.



Does this apply in Japan as well? As long as you get the visa and can speak well the employers aren't super strict about being a pure "native" speaker?


I have a friend who is half Japanese and he has taught English in both Korea and Japan. So, give your ethnicity (which should not matter in an ideal world), I would not worry.
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Carbon



Joined: 28 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wizo wrote:
so now I'm confused.


Now....?
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