Korean Job Discussion Forums

[jzrossef]

I'd appreciate if you could hear me out before assuming that it's one of those quick escape to East that's doomed to fail storyline.

I was wondering where I can find average teaching jobs without needing a completed degree. I understand the pay won't be as good, but I figure that I'd need an experience teaching and decide if it's worth making a life-long career while I have the flexibility with choosing specialized program next year.

Job postings are everywhere, but I'm having some difficulty finding one that doesn't require a degree. Any ideas as to how I can proceed with this? Korea would be best as it would create minimum complication with visa permit, but I'd be fine elsewhere if working without a degree is legal. (Preferably in Chinese-speaking countries)

I know this is not the subject people like to talk about, but I'd be grateful if you could tell me how to start.

PS: I also thought about volunteering. I probably won't find myself stranded in the street as money's not involved, but I'd like to have a little bit of spending power for souvenirs and occasional eat-out apart from provided accommodation, regular meal (maybe that's allowance rather than making me eat in their kitchen?) and plane ticket. I hear about people working without a degree all the time, and I'm sure it's doable... but I'm stuck here, so to speak.

I don't mind volunteering if I can't find a job by January.

[kardisa]

I'm pretty sure this is your only option if you don't have a degree: http://en.cakec.com/?b_id=85&c_id=399&mnu=a03b01

[interestedinhanguk]

ugh.

You generally can't work here.

You need a Bachelors degree+.

The only option is to look into the TALK program. That has some educational requirements that I don't feel like looking up for you.

Have you looked into the requirements in Chinese-speaking countries (i.e. CHINA)? You can probably teach in China, Taiwan's unlikely to impossible.

Where else do they speak Chinese? Some in Singapore.. some in Malaysia? No way those will work.

[ttompatz]

[jzrossef]

[interestedinhanguk]

[kprrok]

Actually, having the F4 is irrelevant in this because having a degree is an MOE requirement, NOT an immigration requirement. The only reason it is an immigration check is that they don't want to issue you the visa only to be turned away by the MOE once you arrive.

This is true for hagwons, PSs, and any other accredited/licensed language institute.

Having said this, if you get caught teaching illegally on an F4, I don't think they can kick you out, you would only face a fine and possibly a black mark that would make it difficult to return in the future.

[ttompatz]

If you are on an F4 then go to work in Korea (as soon as you find someone willing to risk hiring you). Shouldn't be that hard to find since they don't need to deal with the visa issues so most likely no-one will check to even see if you really do or do not have a degree.

You are correct in that you won't be able to get a job in a PS or Uni (they will want to see the documentation).

You MAY be able to find an "afterschool" position in a PS. Many of them don't care either if they don't have to worry about the visa issue.

Is it legal to work as a teacher = no.
Can you do it = yes, virtually with impunity on an F4.

What are the consequences if you are caught - possibly a fine.

As to finding legal work in China (without a degree) - IF your school has the correct friends it is possible to get the "Z" and residence permit (even if you don't have a degree but you will need to have a TESOL as a minimum) but there is no continued guarantee of employment and SAFEA won't be of any help you if you have problems with your employer.

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[northway]

[jzrossef]

[mohair_blues]

with an F4, I'm pretty sure you could get a job teaching at a hagwon, but chances are they wont pay you as much

they'll use the 'no diploma' as an excuse to pay you low

if you want to practice teaching, why not do it where you are right now, do some private tutoring or work at a kids camp to gain some experience working with kids

[eb]

Kyopo. Why you come on here asking such questions when the answer is

readily available from other sources ( ie. Your Korean Family).EB

[jzrossef]