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bharville
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Well I guess if North Korea invaded South Korea there would be a large amount of support from the US. So, provided I was able to make it back to the states, I'd be delighted to enlist in the Army or USMC and and return to Korea this time with a rifle  |
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northway
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| bharville wrote: |
| Well I guess if North Korea invaded South Korea there would be a large amount of support from the US. So, provided I was able to make it back to the states, I'd be delighted to enlist in the Army or USMC and and return to Korea this time with a rifle |
A) The war wouldn't last long enough for you do anything.
B) You'd get an expenses paid trip top the desert. |
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bharville
Joined: 07 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I know. I was being cheeky anyway.
Although there is always the scenario that it could provoke WW3. Doubtfully though. |
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northway
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| bharville wrote: |
| Although there is always the scenario that it could provoke WW3. Doubtfully though. |
If you mean the world against North Korea, sure. |
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DeMayonnaise
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Get to a fishing village, pay USD to a fisherman to take you to Japan. |
Yep. Got my bike, got my panniers, have no problem biking to the south coast and paying in Benjamins to get to Japan. |
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RichardT
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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A) The war wouldn't last long enough for you do anything.
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I'm curious why so many seem to think this is the case. Maybe I don't understand the important implications here. I remember us saying this about Iraq and Afghanistan too.
Isn't there a good chance that even after N.K. had been officially "defeated" millitristically and politically there would still be a great deal of problems with insurgency and essentially terrorism? These people have been brainwashed. The great leader is more than a person to them he's an idea. Not to mention several people in other post have mentioned all the problems N.Koreans are likely to experience in trying to assimilate. The fact that they would do so happily and everything would run smoothly and we'd all go back to normal with the only difference being ESL teachers in Pyonyang doesn't seem right to me. Enlighten me please. I'm not over there seeing things first hand. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| RichardT wrote: |
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A) The war wouldn't last long enough for you do anything.
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I'm curious why so many seem to think this is the case. Maybe I don't understand the important implications here. I remember us saying this about Iraq and Afghanistan too. |
IMO the difference is that in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan there was little support from other Arab countries, and little support from Afghanistan's surrounding countries. Also disbanding the Iraqi rank and file forces was another factor. So you had complete foreigners invading a country with no neighboring countries involved.
The case with NK is that you'll have SK, and you will need to convince China to not get involved in the case of an attack. With South Korea involved you'll have a group of soldiers that can actually communicate with NK troops and citizens and are the same people. |
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Chris.Quigley
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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I registered with the Canadian embassy page.
My wife is not a citizen but I would not leave her behind. My daughter is a citizen so she'll be evacuated with me if the fit hits the shan.
I don't have a lot of faith in the Canadian gov't. They're too busy evacuating false Canadians from Lebanon. |
So true... Sadly... |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| They're too busy evacuating false Canadians from Lebanon. |
False Canadian? Racism is alive and well in Canada as I sense a tone of racism here. All them held Canadian citizenship, which makes them Canadian. Maybe you meant they weren't natural born Canadians, which most of them weren't.
Would you label a bunch of Canadian born gyopos living in Korea as 'false' Canadians? You do realize most Canadian born Canadians in Korea are gyopos?
Would you be saying the same thing if say a bunch of British-Canadians were being saved from fighting from say Cuba? |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Re. Survival Pack question:
Suggest the following:
Chocolate bars
Chewing gum
Cigarettes
Silk stockings
Disposable lighters
My guess is they already have matches up there, but probably not disposable lighters, so that could create quite a sensation with your new overlords. |
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Koreadays
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people who think the North Korean Army will be crushed before they even get to the border are seriously mistaken!
you think the USA at the DMZ are going to stop 1 million troops coming over the border? learn about warfare people!
If the north decide to attack, their targets are the Military posts , communication towers, bridges, airports etc.. so lets say 50.000 missiles have just launched in 2 minutes.. good luck stopping all of those, once the smoke clears.. the NORTH KOREAN army are on their way! do you know what 1 million troops look like running with tanks and jeeps? they will spread out so wide it will be VERY difficult to stop them!
you think those 20 -35 year old korean men doing their military service are gonna me any match for a well trained brainwashed 1 million man strong north Korean military? this will be the deadliest war since world world 2!
and I don't need to remind you that the American army haven't won a war since world war 2. so don't count on those dudes to win the game either
they thought the Vietnamese were going to be like taking candy from a baby, the Americans run home with their balls between their legs.
let's not underestimate the North people. sure they will probably lose.
but the damage they will cause will be epic! and we will not recover from it in our life time. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| I'm totally conflicted about this... on the one hand, a lot of people would probably be trying to get out, but on the other hand, it would be an absolutely horrible feeling knowing that I ran away while all the awesome people I've met here stayed behind... I work in such a poor area that I'm not sure my students would be able to make it out and if it became a huge war and they were killed I would just feel like the absolute lowest scum of the earth. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
A) The war wouldn't last long enough for you do anything.
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I'm curious why so many seem to think this is the case. Maybe I don't understand the important implications here. I remember us saying this about Iraq and Afghanistan too.
Isn't there a good chance that even after N.K. had been officially "defeated" millitristically and politically there would still be a great deal of problems with insurgency and essentially terrorism? These people have been brainwashed. The great leader is more than a person to them he's an idea. Not to mention several people in other post have mentioned all the problems N.Koreans are likely to experience in trying to assimilate. The fact that they would do so happily and everything would run smoothly and we'd all go back to normal with the only difference being ESL teachers in Pyonyang doesn't seem right to me. Enlighten me please. I'm not over there seeing things first hand. |
The problems in Iraq and Afghanistan are largely due to the ethnic/identity groups at play there. In Iraq you've got three major groups with little loyalty to one another. In Afghanistan you've got something like ten different ethnic groups and some religious crazies. On top of that, the occupation is in the hands of a power that is very, very foreign. That's not the same as the South Korean situation. While I'm sure there would be some hardliners who would attempt an insurgency, my understanding is that very, very few people actually believe in that regime anymore, they just maintain their role in it so make sure they keep their bellies full. If the government in the North were to fall, there would be little incentive to keep fighting, as there would be zero chance of a return to communism.
This isn't to say that it wouldn't have a huge impact on living and working in South Korea, just that if you were to join the US Forces you'd probably end up in the Middle East, and if you did end up in Korea, you wouldn't be defending the South, you'd be occupying the North. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Koreadays wrote: |
people who think the North Korean Army will be crushed before they even get to the border are seriously mistaken!
you think the USA at the DMZ are going to stop 1 million troops coming over the border? learn about warfare people!
If the north decide to attack, their targets are the Military posts , communication towers, bridges, airports etc.. so lets say 50.000 missiles have just launched in 2 minutes.. good luck stopping all of those, once the smoke clears.. the NORTH KOREAN army are on their way! do you know what 1 million troops look like running with tanks and jeeps? they will spread out so wide it will be VERY difficult to stop them!
you think those 20 -35 year old korean men doing their military service are gonna me any match for a well trained brainwashed 1 million man strong north Korean military? this will be the deadliest war since world world 2!
and I don't need to remind you that the American army haven't won a war since world war 2. so don't count on those dudes to win the game either
they thought the Vietnamese were going to be like taking candy from a baby, the Americans run home with their balls between their legs.
let's not underestimate the North people. sure they will probably lose.
but the damage they will cause will be epic! and we will not recover from it in our life time. |
you truly an idiot.
any massed concentration of either men or equipment in the open field is an invitation to disaster as the opposing air force and helicopters will blow it all to smithereens.
Just ask the Iraqis, especially in Gulf War 1, with Saddam's million strong army and huge tank superiority (and their tanks were better than dear Leader's)
NK doesn't have an air force which right there guarantees they have no true offensive capability, other than their missiles, with their several nukes.
and their missiles SUCK.
due to Korea's topography, the invasion routes North to South (and vice versa) are few and very well known (and defended). Between the defensive measure in place, the vast fields of mines, the artillery and the air force and large massed invading force would be far worse than decimated. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Tension on the peninsula: have you taken any precautions |
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Mods, this is not another fear mongering thread. I'm just curious whether the foreign teachers here have taken any precautions if the proverbial turd were to hit the fan. None of the Koreans that I know seem worried about the recent events, but at the same time it just seems like a good idea to have a back-up plan ready.
That being said, I don't have one. I just keep my passport and a fair bit of cash (in USD) stashed away, hoping that if anything happens I'll be able to make it to the coast and catch a ferry somewhere.
Zombie Survival Guide references in 3.... 2.... 1....
edit: ugh, wrong forum... asked the mods to move the topic. |
I just took a "precaution".
It was my turd that was ready to hit something.
so I decided to let it hit the bottom of my Western style toilet bowl and then be able to wipe myself with copious amounts of toilet paper.
being stuck in a squat toilet or having to deal with the turd in an open field would've been very very risky indeed, so I felt this was an excellent "precaution" to take at this time.
How about you? |
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