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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: HELP NEEDED TWISTED KNEE Reply with quote

I just twisted my left knee whilst playing a bit of soccer. As best as I can describe it, I accidentally hit the ball with my standing leg (left) went to kick it with my right leg and landed awkwardly in the process (I didn't fall). At the time (about 2 hours ago) it was painful, it�s got progressively better but hurts a lot when I go up and down steps and that is what is concerning me: I have to hold the rail and shift my weight onto the opposite side/leg. However, I can put weight on it and walk around okay, though walking still feels a bit awkward. I have just had a shower, hovered my place, got dressed etc and that seemed okay its just when my knee is inclined it hurts a lot.

Do they have a walkin center in Seoul or what? I don't really want to call my coteacher or to even make an issue over this.

Tenuous it is putting this on a message board I know, but how serious does it sound? Does it sound like a trapped nerve (I have had these before in my shoulder) a sprain or something worse?
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend the Seoul National University International Clinic. It's near Hyehwa station. It's basically a full-service hospital with a separate check-in area and waiting room for foreigners, with english-speaking receptionists and nurses. The doctors speak at least basic English. They'll probably take an x-ray and maybe an MRI of the knee and see what's up.
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Mariella713



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP NEEDED TWISTED KNEE Reply with quote

Seeing as you can put your weight on it and you didn't get the injury from a large force of any sort (you haven't mentioned any swelling or visible cuts either)...I don't think it sounds too serious. But I would recommend you get it checked out. Whenever we get patients who come to us with 'knee sprains' we have to check it out properly as they could've injured any of the four major ligaments in the knee, and each different one has a different treatment method.
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also is this the right link
http://www.snuh.org/english/ihc/ihc02/sub05/


redaxe wrote:
I recommend the Seoul National University International Clinic. It's near Hyehwa station. It's basically a full-service hospital with a separate check-in area and waiting room for foreigners, with english-speaking receptionists and nurses. The doctors speak at least basic English. They'll probably take an x-ray and maybe an MRI of the knee and see what's up.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience with medical treatment in Korea is that you should NOT just trust the doctor. Be very involved with your care and treatment, ask exactly why and wait till you get an answer, question each pill you're told to take, etc. There is a lot of 'doctor knows best' quackery which has really screwed me and other people i know, up. On my current insurance I often go to Yonsei Severance which has an int'l ctr, to. At least some of their GPs are bloody idiots, you have to practically assault them to get to see a specialist who actually knows something. Oh and I speak fluent Korean, so I have this problem even in Korean. Koreans usually just do whatever the doctor says and don't question treatments...
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get yourself to an orthopedic clinic and see what's going on. I personally wouldn't go to the small places on the corner but would opt for a big university hospital or major hospital. If you can get a Korean friend to call ahead and ask which doctors speak English and/or specialize in knees you'll be set.
Then get a second opinion if you feel like you need one.
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
My experience with medical treatment in Korea is that you should NOT just trust the doctor. Be very involved with your care and treatment, ask exactly why and wait till you get an answer, question each pill you're told to take, etc. There is a lot of 'doctor knows best' quackery which has really screwed me and other people i know, up. On my current insurance I often go to Yonsei Severance which has an int'l ctr, to. At least some of their GPs are bloody idiots, you have to practically assault them to get to see a specialist who actually knows something. Oh and I speak fluent Korean, so I have this problem even in Korean. Koreans usually just do whatever the doctor says and don't question treatments...


SSOOOOO very true. my friend had stomach aches and was throwing up. she went to the doctor, the doctor told her she had liver problems and to stop drinking. gave her some pills blah blah. turns out she was pregnant.

ask what it is you're taking and ask for the english names of the pills so you can look them up.

oh, and the hospital at konkuk has a new international section where they speak english.
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
My experience with medical treatment in Korea is that you should NOT just trust the doctor. Be very involved with your care and treatment, ask exactly why and wait till you get an answer, question each pill you're told to take, etc. There is a lot of 'doctor knows best' quackery which has really screwed me and other people i know, up. On my current insurance I often go to Yonsei Severance which has an int'l ctr, to. At least some of their GPs are bloody idiots, you have to practically assault them to get to see a specialist who actually knows something. Oh and I speak fluent Korean, so I have this problem even in Korean. Koreans usually just do whatever the doctor says and don't question treatments...


(Not necessarily directed towards Cedar)

It's a GREAT thing for society and health care when your doctor doesn't let you see a specialist. It's probably the best thing ever. There's a reason why close to 20% of U.S. GDP = health care expenditures. People go to the doctor/ER for WHATEVER reason, because again, it's turned into a p******** country. Oh my head hurts, I need to go to the ER. For F's sake!

Internists/hospitalists/family doctors aren't idiots, they know when you should see a specialist. People always blame their doctors for everything. Please take what cedar says with a grain of salt. You can't say those things without coming up with some statistics about misdiagnoses, botched surgeries, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. etc. etc.

I do agree that people should have more intellectual curiosity in general and know what their doctor is saying to them. It's not something that you should only do in Korea, but everywhere. People tend not to sweat the details.

I've encountered the same thing in every country I've lived in where foreigners complain about the quality of health care. Same old story.
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: HELP NEEDED TWISTED KNEE Reply with quote

stevieg4ever wrote:
I just twisted my left knee whilst playing a bit of soccer. As best as I can describe it, I accidentally hit the ball with my standing leg (left) went to kick it with my right leg and landed awkwardly in the process (I didn't fall). At the time (about 2 hours ago) it was painful, it�s got progressively better but hurts a lot when I go up and down steps and that is what is concerning me: I have to hold the rail and shift my weight onto the opposite side/leg. However, I can put weight on it and walk around okay, though walking still feels a bit awkward. I have just had a shower, hovered my place, got dressed etc and that seemed okay its just when my knee is inclined it hurts a lot.

Do they have a walkin center in Seoul or what? I don't really want to call my coteacher or to even make an issue over this.

Tenuous it is putting this on a message board I know, but how serious does it sound? Does it sound like a trapped nerve (I have had these before in my shoulder) a sprain or something worse?


Who knows what happened. I'd save time and see an orthopedic surgeon immediately. Try to find one that specializes in sports injuries, he'll be able to make a more accurate diagnosis sooner than a regular orthopedist.

Will probably just x-ray and tell you to rest and re-examine you. Good luck!
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have foreign health insurance that's only just accepted at a few places in Korea (I don't want to get reimbursed, too much hassle) so I've been forced to go to Yonsei Severance, and I am criticizing the GPs at Severance international center (not all of them, just the two I've had to see, esp. the one I seem to usually get) not every GP in Korea. I am sure there are lots of good GPs, but the people at Severance are like "your knee hurts? you need an X-ray." "No, I don't, there is no problem with my bones, and tissue problems aren't going to show on the X-ray." "get the X-ray. then you can see a specialist next week to explain the X-ray."

WTF?!! That makes no sense. She's not even trying to figure out what's wrong, she's forcing me to take an X-ray I clearly do not need, and then I have to wait a week to talk to anyone about some pretty severe pain that's screwing up my research.

I think I have a right to criticize any GP that offers care like that.
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Cedar



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

methdxman wrote:


There's a reason why close to 20% of U.S. GDP = health care expenditures. People go to the doctor/ER for WHATEVER reason, because again, it's turned into a p******** country. Oh my head hurts, I need to go to the ER. For F's sake!



Actually, close to 20% of US GDP is probably health care because the cost of health care is totally out of control. I think most people (like me) when in the US try to avoid the doctor and the ER at any cost BECAUSE of the cost. It's in Korea that someone sniffles and they go to the doctor.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pulled a hamstring on Friday (a whole new world of pain) doing the same thing. The orthopedic guy I went to poked it for 30s, declared my diagnosis correct, then gave me a prescription for a boatload of painkillers. Teaching sitting down today.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the diagnostics done in Korea. If there is a problem, seek treatment back home. Don't get treated in Korea.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a Doctor you are comfortable with. There are some quacks here just like anywhere. Usually the hospitals that are assosiated with Universitys are the best.

My wife just had back surgery here and we felt completly comfortable with the Doctor. The first one was saw was as crazy as an out hosue rat.

You usually have to, I guess the correct term is, shop around. If you're in Seoul I'm sure you will have a multitude to choose from.

Be ready to fork over some won, around 500,000 or so for an MRI. From our understanding it;s not covered by insurance. Overall my wife's surgery went great and the cost was a fraction of what it could have been in the US.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to the two chiropractors there on the main road in Itaewon they will be able to tell you whats happening and suggest proper places to go if tests are needed.

Gps know nothing about knees and will just give you drugs as that is what gps do.

If you are lucky one of the chiropractors there might be a specialist in knee problems and if he isn't will probably know who in town is.
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