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[mises]

Ed Shultz says this is all just racist.

http://blip.tv/file/4422733/

Nice to see.

[Isehtis]

Honestly doesn't bother me in the slightest. If you don't want to submit to being searched, don't fly...

[bucheon bum]

I traveled between two major airports for Thanksgiving (Dulles and SFO) and didn't have the body scanner or pat down experience. I feel let down.

[mises]

Ditto. The scanners in all but one line (of 4) were turned off.

[visitorq]

[Isehtis]

The vast majority of us need to leave our houses to live our lives, go to work etc.

The vast majority of us don't have to fly to live our lives, it's a convenience.

[bucheon bum]

[visitorq]

[Madigan]

Oh dear! This is only going to get worse.

[Isehtis]

[quote="visitorq"][quote="Isehtis"]The vast majority of us need to leave our houses to live our lives, go to work etc.

The vast majority of us don't have to fly to live our lives, it's a convenience.[/quote]
Complete nonsense. [i]Many[/i] people have to fly regularly for work (myself included). I also live and work in Asia, but my family lives in the US - so next time I want to visit them are you suggesting I spend two weeks on a boat? Or swim?

Sorry but your argument is bunk... If you reply that I should just suck it up, give up my constitutional rights and get body scanned (and/or crotch grabbed) every time I want to fly, then I assume you'll have no problem getting stopped on the street and scanned every time you drive down the street to the grocery store? (after all it's only a convenience, you [i]could[/i] just work at home and order pizza hut every day). Same principle (slippery slope).[/quote]

It's a matter of scale, I accept there are going to be a minority of people for whom flying is a near necessity but for the vast majority it is not. You talk about constitutional rights and I'm fully behind that, but what about the rights of the victims of terror attacks? If I have to go through discomfort/embarrassment to make life more difficult for terrorists then that's fine, for me at least.

In answer to your second question, I'm living in a pretty rough part of England. I get stopped once every month or so by the police while going about my day to day business, sometimes I'm searched. I don't really have a problem with it, it's a compensation I make to allow for a safer environment.

If the political situation were different then I'd side with those not wishing to endure embarrassment or discomfort, but for as long as the threat is present I *personally* don't object to being searched.

[Madigan]

^ Yes, but isn't there a better way to go about having more secure airports and flights. For example, it has been mentioned that just simply locking the cockpit doors is a simple effective way to prevent hijackings. Even when passing through security, having passengers pass through magnetometers, putting carry-ons through x-rays and then having the local police patrol the terminals with bomb sniffing dogs would be more than sufficient. Sufficient to to the point of making these intrusive searches not just superfluous, but insulting as well. It would be less time consuming as well.

[pkang0202]

Waiting for someone to just start lighting their clothes on fire on the airplane.

Then the TSA response would be for everyone to just fly naked.

[visitorq]

[Steelrails]

Oh please. Do you really think those TSA people are getting off on your naked image? Do you think that pat down guy is saving his latex gloves and building a collection out of them in his apartment?

I agree that they are little more than an excuse to unload techno-junk on the government and make a buck. I also think they are not the "affront to dignity" everyone is making it out to be.

This is all because everyone in America is so prudish.

If walking through the scanner stops the 1 in a million chance of the underwear bomber striking whatever. I have greater concerns. This is such a small issue on the scale of things to get upset about.

[visitorq]