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Space Bar
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 Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: TSA Will Never Ease Screening Policy |
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TSA Chief: US Will Never Ease Screening Policy
Hints at Even More Intrusive Measures to 'Take TSA to the Next Level'
by Jason Ditz, November 21, 2010
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TSA Chief John Pistole reiterated today that the administration has absolutely no intention of ever changing its screening policy, insisting that the TSA is �the last line of defense for the US government� and that all the incidents of groping he was asked about were �appropriate� in the face of terrorists.
Though some said President Obama�s feigned sympathy suggested a change might be in the offing, Pistole seemed determined to indicate that the system is only going to get more intrusive over time.
Indeed as a number of Americans look to train travel to avoid the systematic genital groping that air travel has become, Pistole warned in separate comments that rail traffic was his top priority, hinting that he might add more intrusive screener there and elsewhere because he wants �to take TSA to the next level.�
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton further chimed in on the pat-downs, taking much the similar tack as the president. Clinton insisted she wouldn�t want to have to submit to pat-downs, but that she was perfectly fine with the program continuing for other people. She, like President Obama, is exempt from the screening process.
The TSA website also sought once again to cow American travelers into submission on the issue of �enhanced pat downs,� reiterating that once you are in line anything the TSA screener demands must be complied with and that failure to do so would result in a $11,000 fine and detention. They also warned that any garment warn for religious modesty, or indeed even underwire bras, were like to result in �enhanced� screening.
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northway
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| And Americans, being completely unwilling to accept risk in any way, shape, or form, will go along with it with minor grumbling. |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| And Americans, being completely unwilling to accept risk in any way, shape, or form, will go along with it with minor grumbling. |
Oh, I don't know. "Don't touch my junk, or I'll have you arrested," is not exactly minor grumbling. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| An $11,000 fine and detention is an extreme threat to more than grumble about such as if you get questioned at the checkpoint and your honest answer is misconstrued as refusing to cooperate. Everyone understands we need security, but being treated as criminals for flying is unacceptable. Security protocol is one thing, heavy handed treatment is another. Privatizing, but keeping security might be a good start. When they behave professionally in a neutral manner then few people have a problem with being policed. It's a problem when TSA and other police figures look for a reason to put you in unnecessary legal trouble. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Privatizing, but keeping security might be a good start. |
Yes, this is exactly what we need. More members of the wealthy elite whose fortunes rely upon government-mandated security procedures. I'm sure that won't do anything to exacerbate this problem. |
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northway
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Space Bar wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| And Americans, being completely unwilling to accept risk in any way, shape, or form, will go along with it with minor grumbling. |
Oh, I don't know. "Don't touch my junk, or I'll have you arrested," is not exactly minor grumbling. |
Yeah, because the pre-Thanksgiving protest was a full-fledged success. |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| Privatizing, but keeping security might be a good start. |
Yes, this is exactly what we need. More members of the wealthy elite whose fortunes rely upon government-mandated security procedures. I'm sure that won't do anything to exacerbate this problem. |
You forgot the  . |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Space Bar wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| And Americans, being completely unwilling to accept risk in any way, shape, or form, will go along with it with minor grumbling. |
Oh, I don't know. "Don't touch my junk, or I'll have you arrested," is not exactly minor grumbling. |
Yeah, because the pre-Thanksgiving protest was a full-fledged success. |
I heard about how the TSA was laughing it up on how the opt out day was a failure. That's unfortunate.. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Everybody is laughing at us and I can't say I blame them. We've become a bunch of fat people killing ourselves with Twinkies and Marlboros and instead of addressing that issue, we worry about people we'll never meet killing us. Meanwhile, we need glorified burgerflippers to feel of our asscracks because most Americans are in a panic because many think their own rectum may be the cave Osama bin Laden is hiding in. Only in America. |
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kotakji
Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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I sympathize with the position of most of the responders in this thread, but man, that original article really cobbles together a bunch of different quotes (and really warps some of their meanings) to support its particular narrative. I wish news agencies (and the mainstream ones linked to the original article aren't much better) would give full quotes that include the context.
Only quoting "really the last line of defense" and "determined enemy" (in the linked article) does not provide a foundation for the claim that the TSA admin was conveying "no intention of ever changing its screening policy." It's possible he was, but please, at least in the body of the article, give his exact words. Dont take away the reader's ability to draw his/her own conclusions. |
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NYC_Gal
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwire bras? Dude. I'm a C cup. That's just an excuse for them to get a nice grope in. When I fly, I'll just have to wear a sports bra until I can change in the plane. |
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mmstyle
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I foresee a point when I just won't want to go home anymore. Then again, I don't really consider the US home, just where I go to see my family. |
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Gom
Joined: 05 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| My girlfriend went through one of the scanners recently. She was given no choice and her obedience was DEMANDED. Had I of been there, I think I would have gone absolutely ballistic. |
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mises
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The society is closing. What will America be like in 20 years? |
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Reggie
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