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"The Madness of Two", a new syndrome?

 
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: "The Madness of Two", a new syndrome? Reply with quote

It's about Randy Quaid and his wife, but if you are looking for some kind of point to this thread, sorry! I just like the the whole "love can make you crazy" theme, not to mention the new term that has been coined.

As Gollum would say, "We likes it!"

http://www.popeater.com/2010/12/01/randy-and-evi-quaid-folie-a-deux-mental-health/?ncid=webmail
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"Mental health experts say the couple may be suffering from a psychological condition known as "folie a deux" -- a French term meaning literally "the madness of two." The syndrome is a delusional state shared by two people who bolster each other's twisted take on the world.

"It applies in that they are a pair and they reinforce each other's bizarre hold on reality," Stuart Fischoff, a senior editor of the Journal of Media Psychology and an expert in celebrity psychology, tells PopEater. "So long as you stay with each other and you stay insular, it's a siege mentality. You're not open to contradictions from the outside world."
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Taya



Joined: 09 Jan 2009
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This applies to the internet as well.

See: otherkin communities
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folie-a-deux is not a new term. It can refer to, say, Bonnie and Clyde, but it's older then them, too.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can this really be called a new syndrome?

I assumed this would come under the umbrella of peer reinforcement or group solidarity behaviour, except this group comprises of only two.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taya wrote:
This applies to the internet as well.

See: otherkin communities


+1
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can it only be used to describe extreme cases or would it apply to, say, couples who wear matching sweatsuits to the grocer or heavily overweight couples who feed each other's eating disorders?
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Bo and Peep, also called Him and Her?
They were the leaders of the Heaven's Gate cult.
I have heard the term applied to them.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if two people believe something implausible due to constant social reinforcement from one another, it's a type of madness. But if, say, a billion people believe something equally implausible due to constant social reinforcement from one another, that's different?

Yeah, okay.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tundra_Creature wrote:
Taya wrote:
This applies to the internet as well.

See: otherkin communities


+1


That was one weird site.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, they should call it a folie a milliard.
And that would be a good name for it, too.
I know because I used to work as a volunteer at a mental health center.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
You're not open to contradictions from the outside world."


This applies to countries as well...
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a 'syndrome' becasue its been given a 'label'.

Like the other poster said, this has been going on forever and was previously known as 'reinforcement' (for example asking specific people advice, based on what you know the answer will be).

Theres a lot of BS in mental health and it offers people the chance to stick labels on themselves and others (ie doctor -patient) so that they can be pigeonholed into an easy, conventient treatment (and often in the case of patients, instead of taking any responsibility for their own lability). In most cases, people just strart to act out the disorder once they hear about them.

Theres no evidence that a lot of the treatments work either.

The US is king of sticking labels on people for fadish disorders and is therefore where disorders such as 'dual personality disorder' begin. This disorder does not exist in Europe as far as I know.

Says a lot really
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