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part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PljbdfPRWis

part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXhq0zIX6GU&feature=related


It's so shocking to me how Schiff and I think so a like lmao!

[chellovek]

A delightful mish-mash of right-wingery.

[Madigan]

There is nothing "right-wingery" about being against debt. Still, you're point is valid. It's best to criticize certain policies and their outcomes without aprioristically attacking the government as a whole. It would have been better, and his point would be much better taken, if he limited his critique to easy money and government sponsorship of Sallie Mae.

[mmstyle]

He seems to think that poor people should not be able to get an education. He blames the government and her parents, but never blames the greedy jerks who are raising the costs of education in America into the stratosphere. He is clearly twisting the conversation to make her look like an idiot, rather than trying to discuss how people who are not rich get an education.

He is telling her to lie, evade taxes, etc. Sounds like an elitist jerk to me. He raises valid points so that he can keep the conversation going the way he wants.

[bucheon bum]

[mmstyle]

No, I do get it. Yes, the loans contribute to the higher cost of education, I don't deny that. That is how a pos place like U of Pheonix makes money hand over fist. Private loans are a massive part of the problem. The greed is good philosophy gone crazy. Yes, shoe should have gone to a less expensive school, but as we all know, even a "cheaper" education can still be financially crippling.

You do realize that you can get loans in countries like Australia, you can get a loan for education, but the cost of education is less than a 5th what Americans pay?

Besides, what I really take issue with is the way he controls the conversation to try and make her look like and idiot (school is about drinking) and all but saying poor people should not get a college education but should just go to work. So, what, poor people shouldn't try to be doctors, diplomats, dentists, educators, professors, etc? I gave up on his tirade after 10 minutes because he was being a complete tool towards her. Why the hell was he telling her to lie, to evade taxes, etc? If he really wanted to take issue with the cost of education, he could do so much more intelligently. It's an unintelligent anti-government tirade.

....oh hell, why I am ranting on Dave's?

[northway]

I think anyone who borrows for their entire education from expensive private universities ought to think long and hard about it. I think those who choose to study soft liberal arts disciplines should opt for a state school instead. People who graduate with $150,000 in debt and a history degree are either crazy or stupid. The one possible exception to this would be the super-elite, i.e. Ivies and schools like Duke, which you go to for free if your folks can't afford it anyway. Some of this is the fault of the university system, but no one who spends $200,000 on an NYU education was forced to do so, they easily could have gone to their state university for about a quarter of the cost. Still a ton of money, but not to the degree that you have no possibility of ever paying for it.

Personally, I think it's crazy to allow an 18 year old with no credit history the opportunity to take out $200,000 in loans, but hey, that's just me.

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[northway]

I'm sorry, just listening to this right now, but $200,000 for Northeastern? And she majored in sociology? My God.

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[northway]

[okelleyas]

Personally, I think if you can't make fairly easy sound financial decisions at the age of 18, then your parents failed you. I can without a doubt say that I would know better than to borrow such an absurd amount of money for a liberal arts degree at the age of 18. It's...common sense.

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[okelleyas]

[Hugo85]