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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Junior wrote: |
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| The deal is, those who speak a little English, naturally, speak more than the other teachers who speak no English. When the K teachers who speak little to no English hear the K teachers who speak a little English, albeit poorly, do an open class or presentation they have no understanding or recognition of the mistakes being made, so they assume that the K teacher speaking English poorly actually speaks English well. |
OK, but next time, try to form a comprehensible paragraph.
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commenting about how my English was... absolute shite. |
poor 'ol fatfisher. |
LOL. Come on Jewnior, you can't understand that? At least quote me right, dbag. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: Back on topic |
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| Let's please get back on topic guys. Let's leave the petty name calling to kids. Maybe some ppl could outline their escape plan over the next few years since it looks like we will be eliminated from PS. It's not the first time I have read an article like this and there cannot be smoke without fire. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Back on topic |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
| Let's please get back on topic guys. Let's leave the petty name calling to kids. Maybe some ppl could outline their escape plan over the next few years since it looks like we will be eliminated from PS. It's not the first time I have read an article like this and there cannot be smoke without fire. |
As I have said before, this has always been the plan. To teach enough Korean teachers/potential teachers English so they are capable of conducting a class in English by themselves. On the other hand it would seem that they are a good 10-15 years away from that at a minimum...assuming the budget holds out of course and that there will be no more dramatic downturns in the economy until then.
As for escape plans...Korea is not the only country where a living wage can be made. Several Arab nations pay more and China is up and coming. A competent teacher will always have more than one option on the table for the foreseeable future. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Back on topic |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
| Let's please get back on topic guys. Let's leave the petty name calling to kids. Maybe some ppl could outline their escape plan over the next few years since it looks like we will be eliminated from PS. It's not the first time I have read an article like this and there cannot be smoke without fire. |
As I have said before, this has always been the plan. To teach enough Korean teachers/potential teachers English so they are capable of conducting a class in English by themselves. On the other hand it would seem that they are a good 10-15 years away from that at a minimum...assuming the budget holds out of course and that there will be no more dramatic downturns in the economy until then.
As for escape plans...Korea is not the only country where a living wage can be made. Several Arab nations pay more and China is up and coming. A competent teacher will always have more than one option on the table for the foreseeable future. |
I have several teachers in my school who have been oversea's on the taxpayers dime and still teach the class entirely in Korean. Changing the exam to include an actual English interview with surprise questions is a much better idea.
The recent nork attack will scare off a consideral amount of potential
applicants plus the fact that many people still view this job as temporary and don't renew. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: |
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btw.. at least some of Gyeonggi's English teachers are the teachers whose scores weren't high enough to get into SMOE/Seoul.
so into GEPIK they went, even though some of them actually live in Seoul and wanted to work in Seoul.
of course, even lower scorers got sent out into the "other" provinces.
(of course, we don't really know what the Korean "test" for English teachers is like, what it entails and how prognostocative it'd be for who's make a good English teacher) |
It doesn't quite work like this. Koreans take the big teacher test in the city/area they want to work or think they have a shot at. If they don't pass that city/area test, they must wait a year and take it again. Getting a lower score doesn't send you anywhere except to a teaching job as a teacher with no certificate. |
apologies. Now that I remember the conversation I had with a Korean teacher wannabe a while back your description is CORRECT. However, as I noted, the lowest acceptable score differs depending on the POE you want to work for. Seoul/SMOE is the hardest one to get into. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:04 am Post subject: Re: Back on topic |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
| Let's please get back on topic guys. Let's leave the petty name calling to kids. Maybe some ppl could outline their escape plan over the next few years since it looks like we will be eliminated from PS. It's not the first time I have read an article like this and there cannot be smoke without fire. |
I dunno.
Escape plan?
How many people have plans to stay here and teach in a PS for say more than 5 years?
if and when the time comes, people who are teaching or want to teach or want to continue teaching will look, at alternatives. I'm sure some will be around. China immediately comes to mind. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
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btw.. at least some of Gyeonggi's English teachers are the teachers whose scores weren't high enough to get into SMOE/Seoul.
so into GEPIK they went, even though some of them actually live in Seoul and wanted to work in Seoul.
of course, even lower scorers got sent out into the "other" provinces.
(of course, we don't really know what the Korean "test" for English teachers is like, what it entails and how prognostocative it'd be for who's make a good English teacher) |
It doesn't quite work like this. Koreans take the big teacher test in the city/area they want to work or think they have a shot at. If they don't pass that city/area test, they must wait a year and take it again. Getting a lower score doesn't send you anywhere except to a teaching job as a teacher with no certificate. |
apologies. Now that I remember the conversation I had with a Korean teacher wannabe a while back your description is CORRECT. However, as I noted, the lowest acceptable score differs depending on the POE you want to work for. Seoul/SMOE is the hardest one to get into. |
It's basically a quota. If an area needs 100 teachers for that year, they'll hire the top 100 scores.
Seoul and Gyeonggi are the hardest to get into because of their sheer populations. Those two areas have 5 to 10 times more test takers, but not 5 to 10 times more jobs. |
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