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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| If they normally employ people with the right credentials, how do you think your future colleagues (with their MAs and years of experience) will feel having to work alongside someone who is not really equipped for the job but knows someone who makes the decisions? |
They'll feel like a true Korean.
A no-talent fool CAN get an MA and not use anything he or she "learned". Someone with influence over hiring that has actual, direct experience with a person who appears talented and dedicated could mean a lot more. |
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CtotheB
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Haha, let me just state for the record once again that I don't expect to be instantly put into a position as an English teacher at SNU. I would myself doubt what that means if it was to happen. However, she basically told me she could help me get a university job anywhere, it seemed, including others around Seoul she talked about, that again, flew over my head. |
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CtotheB
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Today was our last class and she spoke with me afterwards. She gave me her personal SNU email and said she'd help me out and try to find me a job. Does anyone have any info on SNU's unigwon? I've heard it's a decent way to move up to SNU proper. |
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whiteshoes
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| CtotheB wrote: |
| Haha, let me just state for the record once again that I don't expect to be instantly put into a position as an English teacher at SNU. I would myself doubt what that means if it was to happen. However, she basically told me she could help me get a university job anywhere, it seemed, including others around Seoul she talked about, that again, flew over my head. |
One thing you can be sure of is that your teacher has a long list of "seniors" and "juniors" who she can call to help you get a job at schools all over the place. Also, if you can get an chance to work at a uni right away, you should take it but don't get yourself too set on SNU. There are lots of unis to work at and the higher the level of school doesn't mean the better it is to work at. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| whiteshoes wrote: |
| CtotheB wrote: |
| Haha, let me just state for the record once again that I don't expect to be instantly put into a position as an English teacher at SNU. I would myself doubt what that means if it was to happen. However, she basically told me she could help me get a university job anywhere, it seemed, including others around Seoul she talked about, that again, flew over my head. |
One thing you can be sure of is that your teacher has a long list of "seniors" and "juniors" who she can call to help you get a job at schools all over the place. Also, if you can get an chance to work at a uni right away, you should take it but don't get yourself too set on SNU. There are lots of unis to work at and the higher the level of school doesn't mean the better it is to work at. |
This
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
The attitudes of several college students already mentioned on this board (sleeping, not attending, and still expecting to pass) will only be magnified if you do land a "prestigious" uni position.
You should seriously ask yourself
Are you sure you want to be teaching your peers? (big no-no to mingle with students)
Did you try teaching any other age group?
Are you sure that being in a university is the best at this time?
First, the students may see you and resent the fact that you are so young, yet teaching them. They may get the impression that you can't teach them anything (hint: more lesson planning) Also, like others mentioned, other professors may resent you being young, inexperienced, and making the same salary w/ getting the same benefits they do. (not saying it is right, but it happens)
Second, you may learn that you like teaching younger students, or post-grads. If post-grads is the way, you may want an adult hagwon (split-shifts and all) or teach at a public school.
Last, a university is very demanding.
Wiki Alia Sabur
They have every right to be, and you will either sink or swim. A Unigwon may help, but some say there is no difference between that and a regular hagwon job.
I believe that your professor friend will do all she can to get you a uni job, but she may not know your mind- if you are ready to handle the responsibility of lectures, grading and "office hours"- then by all means go for it  |
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Thiuda
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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To be honest, you seem ill-prepared to come to Korea and teach at a university at this time. You are, it seems to me, too young and inexperienced. However, since you seem interested in coming to Korea and gaining some experience, how about asking your professor for help getting into a good MA program at SNU? With her support you might be able to get a full NIIED scholarship (tuition+living stipend)! As a bonus, you can work 20 hours a week on a student visa, thereby gaining teaching experience. After two years you'd not only have gained overseas experience, but also an MA from a top-50 uni.
Just a thought. Best wishes. |
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hubbahubba
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| OP...go for it! If it doesn't work out, so be it. Have a backup plan. Don't let the naysayers beat you down. There are certainly obstacles to overcome, but who knows until you give it a shot. Good luck either way! |
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PRagic
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| Pretty sure you need your MA for any job at SNU. |
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Nick Adams
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| It can't hurt to have some help lining up a decent first job in Korea. In my four years, quite a few Korean people helped me out for no apparent reason other than they thought I would do better than most. |
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minos
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Location: kOREA
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Unless she's in charge of hiring, don't hold your breath.
I've been in similar situations and lost out to great positions because somebody have better qualifications like a Celta or more experience.
Recommendations only go so far....especially with many more competition from teachers. |
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CtotheB
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Shocking development: It's not SNU, but rather University of Seoul. I wonder if that changes anything? I'll adjust my posts accordingly so as to not confuse others. |
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legrande
Joined: 23 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup, that changes things up a bit, don't it? |
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CtotheB
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm, seems that UOS might only be slightly less prestigious than SNU. Maybe not so much has changed in that case. |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| CtotheB wrote: |
| Hmm, seems that UOS might only be slightly less prestigious than SNU. Maybe not so much has changed in that case. |
"slightly less"? |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Changes things a lot, but there is a lot higher chance for you to get the job. |
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