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Missihippi



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Location: Gwangmyeong

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: tomato -- the vegetable? Reply with quote

from a culinary standpoint, tomato is a vegetable. From a technical standpoint, because of it's seed, tomato is a fruit. Which is what we are taught since grade school (in America at least).

I've found that most Koreans that i've talked to, including my current students, think that tomatos are vegetables only. No way they are fruits.

Seems strange; this kind of discrepency. Haha, just a random deskwarming thought.
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dory



Joined: 27 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's weird. most koreans i know treat them very much like fruits, even eating them like fruits and grouping them with fruits in platters (particularly cherry tomatoes).
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you know that tomatoes taste sweet? They are sweeter than apples. It's only because, when we are young, we are taught that they have a different taste than most fruits.

Try it out for yourself. Blend an apple in a cup of water and then blend a tomato in a cup of water. Close your eyes and have a friend hand you one. You will be unable to tell them apart.

Pretty amazing!
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harshlands101



Joined: 19 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I've found that most Koreans that i've talked to, including my current students, think that tomatos are vegetables only. No way they are fruits.


Same here, but we have them for dessert in school lunches...go figure
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is a banana truley a fruit? It has no seeds...
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I found more Korean think it is a fruit because if if they thought it was a vegetable it sure as heck would not be put on cakes.
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
so is a banana truley a fruit? It has no seeds...


are you serious lol? then what are those little black specks in the middle?
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
so is a banana truley a fruit? It has no seeds...


http://blog.lib.umn.edu/michaels/thursmorn/Wendy%20Wilson-%20Seed%20Eaten.jpg
The little black dots in the middle are the seeds. You eat them.

Well, I taught my students that tomatoes are a fruit when we were learning about plants. I also told them about other fruits, like pumpkin, peppers (both hot peppers and capsicum), cucumbers, avocado, etc.

I also showed them that vegetables (food term) can come from any part of the plant (root, stem, leaf, fruit). I mean, they were surprised at first, but tell the average person that a cucumber is a berry and they will be too!
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually yeah, I was joking - a bit.
But the seeds of a commercial banana are useless because they are sterile so they are not really seeds (ie cannot be used to make new trees).
They reproduce with roots.


from yahoo answers -
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Bananas can have seeds since they are flowering plants. However, the banana sold in the market do not develop seeds because they are parthenocarpic, meaning they can proceed with further development without the benefit of a sexual reproduction or fertilization. Wild bananas which are not cultivated can have seeds, and have seeds. The black thing we see in the banana fruits are remnants of the degenerated (or unused) styles or tubes through which sperm nuclei would have passed, had there been any pollination and subsequent fertilization.



and banana trees can walk too (thats all my banana facts used now).

could be another topic of discussion with the kids...
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blackjack



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
so is a banana truley a fruit? It has no seeds...


They used to have big black seeds but it was breed out of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_balbisiana
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blackjack



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://lagringasblogicito.blogspot.com/2006/11/wild-bananas.html
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
the seeds of a commercial banana
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: tomato -- the vegetable? Reply with quote

Missihippi wrote:
from a culinary standpoint, tomato is a vegetable. From a technical standpoint, because of it's seed, tomato is a fruit. Which is what we are taught since grade school (in America at least).

I've found that most Koreans that i've talked to, including my current students, think that tomatos are vegetables only. No way they are fruits.

Seems strange; this kind of discrepency. Haha, just a random deskwarming thought.


you know I always thought tomato was a prolific poster who regularly vents his frustration with Koreans insisting on speaking English with him through highly creative and entertaining allegories involving an imaginary society of Koreans singularly fixated on preventing foreigners from speaking their language.

definitely a vegetable and you're not changing my mind
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Missihippi



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Actually I found more Korean think it is a fruit because if if they thought it was a vegetable it sure as heck would not be put on cakes.


they also put green tea and mint on cakes..
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in
your fruit salad."
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