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[Tamada]

[Tamada]

[legrande]

@Tamada

Yeah, they don't really point those things out in the interview, generally.

But it does acquaint you with some of the realities at play, and can make you stronger if you choose not to play it that way,

[calicoe]

No, DEFINITELY hold. They take revenge, and some still do it even without knowledge of their final grades, because they have been corrected in some fashion for bad or disruptive behavior. Also, I do hand back graded assignments during the semester, so the argument that student evaluations are valid because they don't know their grade is a bunch of malarkey.

[Thiuda]

[Milwaukiedave]

I'm giving my students their grades early, but I'm not renewing for another year, so the evaluations don't mean squat. If those who screwed around all term can deal with the fact that they got a low grade, then that's just too bad.

So far in most of my classes that I've calculated my grades it seems like they are all A's and B's and very few C's with a rare D. The ones who never bothered to show up got F's.

[withnail]

Just a question - when can you guys first get the chance to see your evaluations from students?

[Tamada]

[kimchi_pizza]

I just now learned something very interesting that may be the same
with a number of other university grading/evaluation systems.

A student CANNOT see the grade given by their lecturer until AFTER they
have evaluated that lecturer. So, this may actually be a benefit to teachers concerned
about biased evaluations based on the grade given to
students.
I was actually surprised to learn this so I just wanted to pass it along
and see if it was the same for others.

[Bowden_PSM]

My university is similar to a couple of posts.

We have a grading curve that applies to both the midterm grades and final grades. We have to post both.

30% A, 40% B, 30% C and lower.

The students cannot check their grade for the course until they have filled out the online evaluation of the instructor. This is only at the end of the course. Funny thing is, I have not had a single class yet in 4 semesters that has entirely filled out the applications, which means some of the kids were too lazy to even check their marks.

I have been luckier than a lot of my coworkers when it comes to students requesting grade changes. I have only had 3 such requests, 2 of which I denied, and one of which I granted, as it was a legitimate mathematical mistake on my part. The students know that I keep meticulous records and they have a pretty good idea where they stand at the end.

Re-hires at my school depend a lot on the evaluations. If it was up to me to hold or not hold the marks until the evaluations were in, I would surely hold the grades to protect myself in case of stupidity on the student front.

[UknowsI]

[Thiuda]

[UknowsI]