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tomato -- the vegetable?
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Skippy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missihippi wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Actually I found more Korean think it is a fruit because if if they thought it was a vegetable it sure as heck would not be put on cakes.


they also put green tea and mint on cakes..


And Kimchi and Seaweed in their chocolate.
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interestedinhanguk



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Wautlands wrote:
Did you know that tomatoes taste sweet? They are sweeter than apples. It's only because, when we are young, we are taught that they have a different taste than most fruits.

Try it out for yourself. Blend an apple in a cup of water and then blend a tomato in a cup of water. Close your eyes and have a friend hand you one. You will be unable to tell them apart.

Pretty amazing!


No. You're wrong.
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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tomato juice is actually fairly sweet without all the salt Americans put in theirs. I dunno if Korean tomato juice has sugar, but it's very sweet and chuggable. I think we associate tomatoes with cooking Western food so when you cook and add salt, they are veggies. I gobble the cherry tomatoes when they come round to market, but always pass on their yucky large ones. People, when it's a deep rich red and juicy, we are talking about a highly nutritious fruit.

Are tomatoes fruit when eaten raw, but vegetable when eaten cooked or canned?
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interestedinhanguk



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
The tomato juice is actually fairly sweet without all the salt Americans put in theirs. I dunno if Korean tomato juice has sugar, but it's very sweet and chuggable. I think we associate tomatoes with cooking Western food so when you cook and add salt, they are veggies. I gobble the cherry tomatoes when they come round to market, but always pass on their yucky large ones. People, when it's a deep rich red and juicy, we are talking about a highly nutritious fruit.

Are tomatoes fruit when eaten raw, but vegetable when eaten cooked or canned?


Koreans usually add sugar. Sometimes a disgusting amount.

As the OP mentioned, from a culinary standpoint, they are considered a vegetable, even when raw. Think about salads with tomatoes.
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zenbone



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjdBCeUdAmI
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why stop at tomatoes? are not zucchini and cucumber fruit also?
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Taya



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really particular about mixing fruit with non-fruit. For example, I can't eat pineapple on pizza or strawberries in a salad. Maybe that's why I've always hated tomatoes. I pick them off my sandwiches, I eat around them in chili, I never add them to a salad. I always thought it was because I didn't like the taste of tomatoes. However, recently I started eating cherry tomatoes by themselves and they are quite tasty and sweet!
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interestedinhanguk



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taya wrote:
I'm really particular about mixing fruit with non-fruit. For example, I can't eat pineapple on pizza or strawberries in a salad. Maybe that's why I've always hated tomatoes. I pick them off my sandwiches, I eat around them in chili, I never add them to a salad. I always thought it was because I didn't like the taste of tomatoes. However, recently I started eating cherry tomatoes by themselves and they are quite tasty and sweet!


Wouldn't that be fruit with fruit, then? (assuming it's a standard tomato-sauce pizza). I would think you'd pick vegetables off pizza.
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Taya



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Taya wrote:
I'm really particular about mixing fruit with non-fruit. For example, I can't eat pineapple on pizza or strawberries in a salad. Maybe that's why I've always hated tomatoes. I pick them off my sandwiches, I eat around them in chili, I never add them to a salad. I always thought it was because I didn't like the taste of tomatoes. However, recently I started eating cherry tomatoes by themselves and they are quite tasty and sweet!


Wouldn't that be fruit with fruit, then? (assuming it's a standard tomato-sauce pizza). I would think you'd pick vegetables off pizza.

Hmm that's a good point, but I don't consider tomato sauce or ketchup to be fruit.
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johnnyrook



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, how I realised I was truly in a different world when I was working my way through a delicious chocolate waffle at some cafe in Daegu one time, only to discover, amongst all the delicious fruit garnish, a single slice of tomato hiding beneath the whipped cream, smoothered generously in melting ice cream and chocolate sauce. Haute cuisine, indeed.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missihippi wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Actually I found more Korean think it is a fruit because if if they thought it was a vegetable it sure as heck would not be put on cakes.


they also put green tea and mint on cakes..


And make cakes out of sweet potato.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they must also think cornflakes are a fruit because Ive found them on/in just about everything that Ive ordered - including in salads (with tomatoes).
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interestedinhanguk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
Missihippi wrote:
Skippy wrote:
Actually I found more Korean think it is a fruit because if if they thought it was a vegetable it sure as heck would not be put on cakes.


they also put green tea and mint on cakes..


And make cakes out of sweet potato.


Any different from cakes made out of carrots or pies made from pumpkins?
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Chet Wautlands



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interestedinhanguk wrote:
Chet Wautlands wrote:
Did you know that tomatoes taste sweet? They are sweeter than apples. It's only because, when we are young, we are taught that they have a different taste than most fruits.

Try it out for yourself. Blend an apple in a cup of water and then blend a tomato in a cup of water. Close your eyes and have a friend hand you one. You will be unable to tell them apart.

Pretty amazing!


No. You're wrong.


You clearly didn't try it. Try it!
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interestedinhanguk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Wautlands wrote:
interestedinhanguk wrote:
Chet Wautlands wrote:
Did you know that tomatoes taste sweet? They are sweeter than apples. It's only because, when we are young, we are taught that they have a different taste than most fruits.

Try it out for yourself. Blend an apple in a cup of water and then blend a tomato in a cup of water. Close your eyes and have a friend hand you one. You will be unable to tell them apart.

Pretty amazing!


No. You're wrong.


You clearly didn't try it. Try it!


So, have you ever made a pizza with applesauce mixed with seasonings?

Or put some plain tomato sauce on a pork chop or potato pancake?

My palate is good enough to know that a tomato tastes different from an apple.
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