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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: People are the problem |
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In life, I find the vast majority of people I've met are 2-faced i.e. they are nice in your presence, but talk badly about you almost as soon as they are a distance far away enough, to not be heard. You can tell by their gestures and facial expression it is you that is the topic.
Often, it appears they are talking unfavourably about you, being snide.
Shockingly, they then expect you to be full of warmth for them and they also want you to speak as though everything is fine.
I've decided to keep a distance from such people. Admittedly, I'm a loner, but that's because I am one of the few humans in this world who doesn't 'bad mouthe' people. That's why I stay close to myself.
Talking badly about others disgusts me, yet I am surrounded by people that consider it to be a normal thing to do. I hate backbiting.
I appreciate people don't always talk badly about others, but they do sometimes, it can be quite obvious.
Because of this, I feel a strong desire to avoid most people like the plague.
Are you a one of the many potential sociopaths out there? You think you're excellent but in truth, you're a two-faced individual, unaware of your own shortcomings?!!
Let me be unambiguous, I have my own failings, but being two-faced is not one of them.
Are you like fromtheuk or are you a 'bad mouther' that thinks they are a very nice person? If it has just dawned on you that you are two-faced, I apologize for the unexpected, wake-up call.
Please let me know your thoughts, feel free to disagree, I can take it.  |
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eb
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but often the people who say they "don't" and then mack on
others 'for "doing" are thier own worst hyprocites. EB |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Point taken, but in fairness I've raised the issue just this once, without mentioning anybody's name.  |
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AmericanBornKorean
Joined: 08 Oct 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I would say there are two classes of talking behind someone's back. One is out of genuine hatred, the other is in the spirit of endearing verbal jabbing. Friends, even in the same circles, will talk smack about each other behind the others' backs, but still can be best friends. I think it's normal human behavior. This is something that I only realized about a decade ago, and once I realized that this is the way it is, it's much easier to let things go.
For example, my buddy and I talked about how one of our suite-mates smells like he hasn't taken a shower in a year, and we said some things that would probably hurt his feelings. But we love him as a friend. I know they talk about me when I'm not there, and so on and so on. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep, gossiping is what people do. Even if you are totally right and doing good, you'll get downplayed and even lied about behind your back so your good reputation and jaw dropping performances cancels out what was said moments ago. It's really not a problem until someone has the power to influence an important decision maker with no real facts. This could be the boss, a client, or the law. As long as they can't draw up facts you did wrong, they really can't prove it, it's just hearsay no one can act on. Family can be the most tricky if they seek your sympathy, time, and money with a belief you owe it. It's a game changer if no one close is your friend behind your back. Unfortunately, honestly and integrity kills your chances at doing well when it comes to people. |
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eb
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I know people talk shit. But, the good news is: if you know they are talking/going to talk, then you can set them up,meaning use a taperecorder and catch them in the act. It is your legal right to do so.
Slander is against the law and could result in a very nice 'payout".
Not to sound vicous,but if you have the means and resources to sue someone, then you REALLY should.
"Believing in what is the law, doesn't become what is above or below it"
E. Batinic ( "EB") |
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Important advice: If you have a gut feeling that you are being disrespected, you probably are. No matter what you do in this life, there will be people who dislike you or people who will try and undermine you. The only real way to deter it is to establish a reputation as being somebody to fear, but in order to gain that reputation you need to do some risky and unpleasant things.
If there are any toxic people in your life, it's best to just cut them out of it.
Watch out for people who are excessively friendly or polite. They're often the first to make a snide remark as soon as you're out of earshot. As you get older, it becomes easier to spot people who are not going to add value to your life, so it's important to minimize your exposure to them as well as any influence that they have on your life.
I know someone from my hometown who's a real snake in the grass. He has no self esteem, so instead of building confidence the hard way he loves to drag people down to his level through gossip and passive aggressive behavior. He's just a real all around scumbag with zero integrity. I'm back home now and apparently he's really upset and offended that I haven't contacted him or spoken to him. Even though I'm known him for more than 12 years, I cut him off a couple years ago. People like that will do nothing but try to drag you down.
The people you surround yourself with can make or break you. Don't associate with losers or miserable people. Seek out people who have a good outlook, are fun to be around, share common goals and most importantly, have your back. A good wingman is priceless. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: England/Anyang
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| In life, I find the vast majority of people I've met are 2-faced i.e. they are nice in your presence, but talk badly about you almost as soon as they are a distance far away enough, to not be heard. You can tell by their gestures and facial expression it is you that is the topic. |
You must hang around some pretty lame people. I choose a close group of friends and nobody backbites anybody. They may say something bad about a person when they are not present, but when they become present, they will say it again. If not, it's simply because it wasn't a current topic anymore.
The only back biting I've really witnessed is kids in Korea who deem it safe to talk in Korean in the presence of foreign teachers. And possibly the K-staff, but I'd hardly call it the vast majority.
I wouldn't even tolerate anybody the second I hear about them being like that kind of person. And you can really tell who they are just by being around them 5 minutes, so I would rarely even give them a chance to know enough about me.
However, I could argue with myself and say it's another survival tactic in the grand scheme of evolution. Knock someone down, you have a better chance of being the superior, breeding and thus passing on your genes.
But then I think the Title of this thread is wrong, with the inclusion of 'Problem' |
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discostu333
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like the OP needs to grow some balls.
In life you're going to meet people you like and dislike. Sometimes you have to deal with the people you dislike in order to advance your own life. It doesn't mean you have to like them, but it doesn't mean you have to fall to their level.
If you are sound in mind, confident in yourself and know you have some decent friends behind you this isn't a problem.
If you are reclusive, self-righteous, withdrawn and negative, life aint so easy.
OP, you come across as one of the later. Lighten up, life is what you make of it. So what, some people talked smack about you behind your back? Happens to the best of us. Grow up, move on, be happy.  |
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