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Treatment of women in Korea?
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jennad



Joined: 02 Dec 2010
Location: San Diego

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Treatment of women in Korea? Reply with quote

Thoughts anyone? I've heard women are generally not treated well there....but does t his extend to foreigners?
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BaldTeacher



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's as bad as they say. It's definitely different from the West though, where men are devalued and women are put on pedestals.

Edit: I'd also like to add that I know of many Western women who enjoy themselves in Korea and resigned for second and third years.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't that bad here for women. The problem is in the the professions where women still have an uphill battle to advance. Also remember, up to the mid-90's women were expected to stay home after birth, and teaching was one of the few professions women could freely enter.
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dongjak



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women here are treated like delicate flowers who are incapable of doing any sort of physical work or labor. As a foreign women, this perception tends not to apply to you, but be prepared to get surprised looks when you tell people you know how to swim and have run marathons.
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AmericanBornKorean



Joined: 08 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dongjak wrote:
Women here are treated like delicate flowers who are incapable of doing any sort of physical work or labor. As a foreign women, this perception tends not to apply to you, but be prepared to get surprised looks when you tell people you know how to swim and have run marathons.


As a Korean-American who has met, dated, and talked to many Korean women fresh from Korea, you are correct. I would say a majority of them have not done anything really physical in their life.
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn shame.

nothing more beautiful than an athletic woman!!
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first came to Korea I could not fathom the concept of a non-landlocked nation where few of the men and almost none of the women know how to swim. But apparently not knowing how to swim is very common in Asia.
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discostu333



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In context, I think women have it better than a lot of westerners think. Sure, the pressure is there for them to get married to a rich husband, quit work, have kids etc but I think its a lot less than other Asian countries and times are changing really fast.

In relationships, Korean aggashis seem to have all the power. Many young Korean friends have told me this directly. Aggashis may seem quiet and weak, but they sure as hell know how to manipulate guys into getting what they want (how many dudes do you know back home who carry their girlfriends handbags, call them 10 times a day and shower them with gifts at every opportunity?).

Then there are the adjummas, the most feisty, strong-willed and powerful women I have ever seen. They control the family purse strings, and rule with an iron fist.

There's a lot going on in Korean domestic life that the untrained waeguk eye often misses.
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minos



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dongjak wrote:
Women here are treated like delicate flowers who are incapable of doing any sort of physical work or labor. As a foreign women, this perception tends not to apply to you, but be prepared to get surprised looks when you tell people you know how to swim and have run marathons.


Maybe in Gangnam....Adjummas everywhere else do their fair share of work unless they're rich.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's amusing how often I see korean guys holding handbags to release the heavy strain from the shoulders of the feeble females they are with.
If I was a female I'd be pretty offended.

It's typical British etiquette to take heavy bags from a girl, but the handbag? With all her personal belongings she may require at every instant... seems like more hassle than its worth.
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dongjak wrote:
Women here are treated like delicate flowers who are incapable of doing any sort of physical work or labor. As a foreign women, this perception tends not to apply to you, but be prepared to get surprised looks when you tell people you know how to swim and have run marathons.


As a Korean-American who has met, dated, and talked to many Korean women fresh from Korea, you are correct. I would say a majority of them have not done anything really physical in their life.


To each their own but this is why unlike many of the foreign men here, I am not particularly attracted to the vast majority of Korean women under the age of 30. I grew up with sporty girls in the Rocky Mountains and went to a university that specialized in female sports programs. I've always been attracted to sporty women and although this current generation of Korean women are generally thin, it's not because of being physically active rather poor eating habits. The last generation that are now ajummas are different as they worked hard and are still incredibly active. Just go hiking on the weekends and there are hordes of Ajummas out there. An aghassi? Nope. Not one.

The only activities I've seen many aghassis do is maybe a little walking on a treadmill or some light yoga. Other than that it is shopping, coffee shops, shopping and drinking and more coffee shops. If that is what makes them happy then that is great but that sure as hell is one turnoff for me.

There are Korean women that do play sports but they are usually roided out big/tall women that are placed in specially designed factory style sporting programs by the government. They are practically men in my opinion. It is too extreme.

Golf is another activity that women play here but it is generally only an activity for the very few in the upper echelons of Korean society.

Who was it that said this on the overrated/underrated thread? Rooster?

Overrated: Aghassis

Hard to disagree here. Many (not all) are spoiled and soft and want men to do everything for them. These individuals are also incredibly boring.

Underrated: 30 something ajummas

Spot on. Many are physically active, intelligent and didn't get caught up in the current spoiled princess generation.
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misher



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies for going off topic.

To answer the OP's question, I would say that foreign women are treated quite well here. My coworkers get all kinds of extra private classes because of their gender. Most Korean business women want a female teacher. Adjossis do as well. Being female is actually quite a big advantage with Korean adults from what I've seen.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
damn shame.

nothing more beautiful than an athletic woman!!


If they are beautiful and athletic, perhaps. But there are also a lot of masculine looking(and acting) female athletes. I would take the unathletic delicate flowers over them any day of the week, superficial as that sounds.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

misher wrote:
Apologies for going off topic.

To answer the OP's question, I would say that foreign women are treated quite well here. My coworkers get all kinds of extra private classes because of their gender. Most Korean business women want a female teacher. Adjossis do as well. Being female is actually quite a big advantage with Korean adults from what I've seen.


I have to pretty much second this. I assume that as long as you get a good employer, you be treated very well. I was here as an exchange student, I know I was. I was offered multiple tutoring jobs from the international student centre (only took two since I wanted time to do my own thing as well).

Outside of work/school I was treated quite well also. I know on my TKD team, girls were expected to work just as hard as the fellas (which makes sense). Oddly enough, they'd be all soft on us once training had finished as though we never carried anything in our lives and were incapable of paying for stuff whether you're dating them or not.

I imagine it would probably be different depending on the profession, etc, but I think you'll be fine.
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BaldTeacher



Joined: 02 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If they are beautiful and athletic, perhaps. But there are also a lot of masculine looking(and acting) female athletes. I would take the unathletic delicate flowers over them any day of the week, superficial as that sounds.


Yeah I couldn't care less if the woman plays sports. I don't play sports either, I just pump iron. If I want to go do some physical activity I'll do it with the guys.

All I care about is that 1) she's hot 2) she's feminine in body and mind 3) she has a good personality. There might be other ones, but those are the main ones. A lot of young Korean women fit those three criteria so there you go. There's nothing like a hot 20 year old agasshi to get the blood pumping to where it counts and that's not going to change because she's not on the women's ice hockey team.

Then again, there are some hot Korean girls in their 30's too. They tend to age very well. I don't think of them as being ajummas though. When I think of ajummas I think of old women with stupid-ass visors on their heads getting in my way.
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