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jrwhite82
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| If someone could explain to me how posting '+1' to a conversation adds anything of substance or worth to it I'd like to hear it. It is moronic and serves no purpose other than to boost one's post count, which is also moronic. |
You're missing at least one comma. 
Edit: And yet again, you fail to progress the conversation. I asked you to write something that wasn't hypocritical. And I asked you which is worse for the conversation. Your insults, or a +1 support comment?
Judging from the +1's I've received. I am willing to bank on my side of the argument.
Democracy for the win. Back to communist China you go. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: |
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I don't see how the conversation can progress really; the OP cheated and now has to a take a chance, visa-wise.
And this may knock your socks across your face but I am no longer in China, and there is nothing communist about China besides the government, China is the most capitalistic country that I've been to. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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All you can do is try... if they say no, they say no.
But you suck. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| I second what others have said. You and your kind have caused us untold grief in paperwork and hoops to jump over. I sincerely hope you receive a lifetime ban from Korea. |
+1. It's people like the OP that are the reason why getting here is such a pain in the neck. I hope they turn you down for life. |
+1 do us all a favor and dont come back |
I disagree; if he did his time and earned a degree he should be allowed in. |
no there's too many people here as it is. Keep the questionable ones out. OP sounds like he'd sell his left nut to get in this country. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:17 am Post subject: |
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its idiots like the op and people who post about trying bs the drug test etc (along with the jerks who actually mail themselves weed etc) that make life for the rest of us who actually play by the rules incredibly worse off.
op i hope they nail your butt i just pray that it doesnt make the press i can imagine how it will play out in the media "foreign english deported for fake degree tries to come back" i dont want to imagine the repercussions for the rest of us |
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tophatcat
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
| I second what others have said. You and your kind have caused us untold grief in paperwork and hoops to jump over. I sincerely hope you receive a lifetime ban from Korea. |
+1. It's people like the OP that are the reason why getting here is such a pain in the neck. I hope they turn you down for life. |
+1 do us all a favor and dont come back |
+2 |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
| I second what others have said. You and your kind have caused us untold grief in paperwork and hoops to jump over. I sincerely hope you receive a lifetime ban from Korea. |
+1. It's people like the OP that are the reason why getting here is such a pain in the neck. I hope they turn you down for life. |
+1 do us all a favor and dont come back |
+2 |
infinity + 1 |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I don't see how the conversation can progress really; the OP cheated and now has to a take a chance, visa-wise.
And this may knock your socks across your face but I am no longer in China, and there is nothing communist about China besides the government, China is the most capitalistic country that I've been to. |
+1 for changing your sig. Thanks for keeping us up to date. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| tanklor1 wrote: |
| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
| I second what others have said. You and your kind have caused us untold grief in paperwork and hoops to jump over. I sincerely hope you receive a lifetime ban from Korea. |
+1. It's people like the OP that are the reason why getting here is such a pain in the neck. I hope they turn you down for life. |
+1 do us all a favor and dont come back |
I disagree; if he did his time and earned a degree he should be allowed in. |
All these hoops and paperwork are not because of the people who come here and do stupid stuff. They are put in place because the government needs to look like they're working hard for the tax payer. These incidents appear in the paper not because they are the key reason kids aren't getting a good education or because of the heinous nature of the crimes. They're there because their readers like to hear about why foreigners are to blame instead of why citizens are to blame.
I'm not saying that what the OP did was ok. In fact, I think that it's dishonest, but I wouldn't consider it a serious crime. Considering that immigration doesn't really care WHAT you studied at university, I don't really rank a person with no degree much lower than someone with a degree in Physics as far as ability to do the job. I'd say that the dishonesty and malicious things that school owners do is far worse.
But let's face it, if the OP and others like him didn't pull similar stuff, we'd still have all the paperwork and procedures to go through to get a visa to work here. Korea would be no more welcoming. They would give us no more benefit of the doubt. All that bureaucracy is not there to prevent people like the OP from getting in. It's just to appease the public. If it wasn't this, they'd find fault with something else. |
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metalhead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| No, the new rules and regulations ARE in place because of people that did stupid things. Canadians going to Korea on their six month visas working illegally, Christopher Paul Neil, guys here escaping the hand of the law back in their home countries - please try not to present your facts as actual facts when quite clearly they are not. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| metalhead wrote: |
| No, the new rules and regulations ARE in place because of people that did stupid things. Canadians going to Korea on their six month visas working illegally, Christopher Paul Neil, guys here escaping the hand of the law back in their home countries - please try not to present your facts as actual facts when quite clearly they are not. |
Wasn't that fool on some visa which didn't even get its requirements changed when they changed all the visa reqs in response to his actions? |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| metalhead wrote: |
| No, the new rules and regulations ARE in place because of people that did stupid things. Canadians going to Korea on their six month visas working illegally, Christopher Paul Neil, guys here escaping the hand of the law back in their home countries - please try not to present your facts as actual facts when quite clearly they are not. |
Wasn't that fool on some visa which didn't even get its requirements changed when they changed all the visa reqs in response to his actions? |
Yep. They nabbed him in Thailand. Prior to that, he had no criminal record in his home country (Canada). So, even if the current visa procedures had been in place back then, he still would have received a visa. |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep. They nabbed him in Thailand. Prior to that, he had no criminal record in his home country (Canada). So, even if the current visa procedures had been in place back then, he still would have received a visa. |
I donot like talking about CPN that much for it reminds me of the American pedophile wo claimed to have killed Jon Bonet Ramsay, who also worked in Korea and went to Thailand before he was arrested. The Korean officials hardly raised up the alarm in that case and no changes in immigration policy were instituted.
But a Canadian does it and all heck breaks out.
I am for second chances and if the OP has changed, then let him come but if not, try China or Viet Nam. Innocent Westerners pay the price for other people's sins and that is not right and frankly, I am tired of paying for doing nothing wrong. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| American pedophile wo claimed to have killed Jon Bonet Ramsay, who also worked in Korea and went to Thailand before he was arrested. |
There is no proof Karr worked in Korea. There are no photos showing he left Korea like there is of Christopher or accounts by other teachers who knew Christopher was teaching in Korea.
Another point is Christopher hid, John Karr openly made a false confession. The swirled photo was obviously an attempt to avoid people from seeing his face. Karr on the other hand welcomed the attention, there are tons of photos of him online. Why don't we see photos of him in Korea? Why wasn't there a photo of him at a Thailand airport like there was with Christopher? There probably was, but his flight didn't originate from Korea.
John Karr is just a weird attention seeking individual, like your daily gossip columnist. Christopher on the other hand had a toggled double life, appearing to be one person while hiding other activities.
This doesn't mean Americans are the same, nor does it mean Canadians are the same. But given the choice, I would rather tell the Karrs of the world to never lie again. With the Christophers, I never want to see them.
"2001-2002
Karr claimed he taught English to children aged 6-12 in Seoul, South Korea, and volunteered as an English teacher in Heemstede, Netherlands, a resume posted on an English-teaching institution Web site said. The Web site took down the posting after an Associated Press reporter called. South Korean immigration officials have declined to comment. The same claim was made on the resume posted on Job4Teacher.com; its authenticity could not be confirmed."
(another article about Karr)
"But some of the institutions claim they've never heard of him and deny that he ever toiled for them. "We have never even interviewed him," counters Um Dae-jin, who works at the GnB in Seoul, South Korea, one of those listed in the resume."
Christopher - "Former colleagues in South Korea said he arrived in August to teach at the Gwangju school, a small international school in the city of Gwangju, about 186 miles southwest of Seoul. " - more at http://www.masscops.com/f38/international-child-molester-unswirled-arrested-39135/ |
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