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comm
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| I was tempted to say something about the Gulf of Mexico and how I've never heard anyone in the U.S. care about that... But I guess some countries have to take pride wherever they can find it, so whatever. |
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PastorYoon
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
Are you sure you don't mean "FASHION"???  |
Who would love their fashion? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| Someone needs to show them a world map and how little Dokdo matters. |
They're relevant for economic reasons, particularly the potential of gas deposits for resource poor Korea. |
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SinclairLondon
Joined: 17 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Do Koreans tour there? And if so, is it layered with flem, cigarette butts and coffee stained paper cups? |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL at idiots who thinkd Dokdo is meaningless. The surrounding island is a resource rich territory. Anyone who doesn't claim it as theirs would be considered as moron. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| PastorYoon wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
| Are you sure you don't mean "FASHION"??? |
Who would love their fashion? |
Haven't been here long, have you?? This was a JOKE!! Koreans tend to pronounce the word "fashion" as "passion". Got it??? |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| comm wrote: |
| I was tempted to say something about the Gulf of Mexico and how I've never heard anyone in the U.S. care about that... But I guess some countries have to take pride wherever they can find it, so whatever. |
It's CALLED the Gulf of AMERICA!!!   |
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RobertGR
Joined: 03 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| comm wrote: |
| I was tempted to say something about the Gulf of Mexico and how I've never heard anyone in the U.S. care about that... But I guess some countries have to take pride wherever they can find it, so whatever. |
It's CALLED the Gulf of AMERICA!!! |
North, South, or Central? |
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PastorYoon
Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
| PastorYoon wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
| Are you sure you don't mean "FASHION"??? |
Who would love their fashion? |
Haven't been here long, have you?? This was a JOKE!! Koreans tend to pronounce the word "fashion" as "passion". Got it??? |
There's this Korean lady I know that always says "LEERY?!" whenever she wants to say 'really'. It's hilarious. |
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Provence
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
These kinds of campaigns do more to hurt the image of Koreans abroad than anything.
South Korea is a relatively stable, wealthy, priviliged nation where everyone has plenty to eat and a lot of people have an extremely high standard of living. It is the home to several successful global corporations. And we're supposed to feel sorry for them because of a few dumb words on a map, describing some areas that no one in the west has probably even paid much attention to???
Someone should tell the people responsible for these billboards that there are genocides... genuine cases of extreme suffering in the world... and those things don't get their own billboards.
This is actually really shameful... they're embarrassing Korea by doing this. |
I would respectfully submit that they are only embarrassing themselves. If an English teacher from either America or Canada behaves badly in another country...should either country feel embarrassed? Would they even know about it or care? |
apples and oranges, but not unlike any of your past arguments
It really is hard for me to take you seriously sometimes. Your responses are so predictable. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that Dokdo isn't a completely irrelevant issue... but it's definitely not as major as they seem to think it is. I think it's pretty obvious that the whole Dokdo thing isn't about Dokdo at all and is more about the deeper issues that they have with Japan.
If they put up a billboard about what happened during the war, then maybe someone would care... but nobody likes to talk about it, because it means admitting that they weren't always the glorious, powerful, invincible centre of the universe. So instead you get these weird outbursts over sensitive spots that seem completely absurd to outsiders.
But then, it's hard to feel sympathetic when they have murals of Hitler in Gyeongju and seem to treat Nazism in general as something exciting or funny... sometimes I just want to shake them and say, YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE JAPANESE ALLIES AND DID TO THE JEWS WHAT THE JAPANESE DID TO YOU... but I don't think your average Korean would even care-- and yet, they expect unconditional sympathy for their own plight.
When your average Korean learns how to at least fake compassion and sympathy for the suffering of non-Koreans-- that's when people will want to care about Dokdo. |
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Provence
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE JAPANESE ALLIES AND DID TO THE JEWS WHAT THE JAPANESE DID TO YOU.... |
I don�t recall ever reading about Korean death camps set up by the Japanese. The 9,500 Korean deaths due to rebellions are hardly comparable to the millions of Jews that died for the simple fact they were Jewish under the Nazis. |
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PastorYoon
Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Sea of Japan
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Provence wrote: |
| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE JAPANESE ALLIES AND DID TO THE JEWS WHAT THE JAPANESE DID TO YOU.... |
I don�t recall ever reading about Korean death camps set up by the Japanese. The 9,500 Korean deaths due to rebellions are hardly comparable to the millions of Jews that died for the simple fact they were Jewish under the Nazis. |
Look up "Unit 731" for an intro. I agree with the other guy, though, and won't really feel sorry for Koreans until they show compassion and respect for others. |
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Provence
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| PastorYoon wrote: |
| Provence wrote: |
| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE JAPANESE ALLIES AND DID TO THE JEWS WHAT THE JAPANESE DID TO YOU.... |
I don�t recall ever reading about Korean death camps set up by the Japanese. The 9,500 Korean deaths due to rebellions are hardly comparable to the millions of Jews that died for the simple fact they were Jewish under the Nazis. |
Look up "Unit 731" for an intro. I agree with the other guy, though, and won't really feel sorry for Koreans until they show compassion and respect for others. |
I don�t see how a unit in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (not Korea) and only responsible for up to 10,000 deaths of prisoners of war and rebels, from various countries most of which were Chinese, is comparable to the millions of innocent Jewish civilians killed by the Nazis.
The point that Japan treated Koreans the same as the Nazis treated the Jews, is simply not true.
Edit: I would also like to add the Japanese had no intention to eradicate the Korean population, whereas the goal of the Nazis was the extermination of the Jews. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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No, okay, it wasn't the same thing... I just thought that it would make an effective comparison that your average Korean could relate to.
The worst thing the Japanese did was forced prostitution and messed up medical experiments... which is still pretty horrific, but I guess it's not the same thing, exactly. |
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