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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: pension from the government or cash Reply with quote

Hello. After a year of working for my boss, she surprisingly sells her company (not warning us before she did). After checking the pension office, I discovered she had not been reporting my pension. Upon discovery, she offered three options: 1. to roll it over to the new director 2. to report it to the pension office 3. to give me the cash. I believe #1 is out, but does anyone know the pros and cons of 2 vs. 3? Thanks!
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she is offering option 2, then why didn't she just give them the money in the first place? Does she have that money ready to give them now?

My instincts tell me she is not planning on giving you the money. If you choose option 2, she won't do anything and it will be like option 1. It will roll over anyway. She will argue it's the new owner's problem. The new owner will argue they knew nothing of it and they don't owe you. You won't get anything.

Option 3 is only good if the amount is what you want. In my case, I left a hagwon job, but I used them as a reference for a better job and in a better location. You need to weigh your options with your life and see how it fits. Don't just solve the problem as it relates to the school. Where do YOU want to live? Where do YOU want to work?
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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe option 3 may be better for me since i may need the money in a couple of months. What are my legal options if she is stalling and won't pay anyway. Something tells me she may not have the money.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take the cash make sure it has her contributions in it too. You should have double of whatever you put "Employee Matching". If not report it to the pension office / labor board.

Its korean law to provide pension.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If not report it to the pension office / labor board.


This is a good point. If the owner is not giving you all you need, I suggest you take it anyway and then report to pension office at least the difference you feel you are owed.
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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all of your suggestions! Be blessed!
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to let us know how it turns out. Might be useful to someone else later.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.


But if that bird poops in your hand you have to pay for extra toilet paper. Hopefully, we can duck behind the bush.
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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still waiting. We have been talking. Now she believes that you take taxes off of the pension. Is this correct?
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nw25th



Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angelarena wrote:
I am still waiting. We have been talking. Now she believes that you take taxes off of the pension. Is this correct?

No taxes are taken out...Were your paychecks being deducted for pension every month? If they were, I'd give her a # for what you're owed and give here a due date for it (if she doesn't come up, report it, cause then she's literally just stealing your money)...if you were never getting deducted, it's not as bad, but still try and get it out of her....
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote take her to the pension office.
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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. My plan was to just turn it over to the pension office. The pension man I had been dealing with initially told me that if she did not give me the money, then I could tell him and they would pursue the matter. About a week later, his story changed and is now saying there is nothing they can do. I don't know if it's because she is no longer the director or because he is just choosing not to help. At any rate, I will have to locate another pension office in Seoul. This one is in Pyeongtaek:(
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angelarena



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and it was being deducted...
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phamjosi



Joined: 17 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm currently trying to get my pension also. My employer has been reporting me as earning much less than I earned and the pension office should have the information changed later today.

However, I've also heard a rumor that the school will change owners. Would my boss still owe me the money that the pension office says it owes me? Or would that be just voided because of the change of ownership?
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