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Employers who demand more than the E-2 document requirements
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earthquakez



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Employers who demand more than the E-2 document requirements Reply with quote

Looking at various job sites on the net including this one it's interesting to note that some employers just don't get it re the new E-2 visa rules. Asking for transcripts is not at all necessary following the new rules that started in September.

They're not only asking legitimately for apostilled copies of originals of degrees and apostilled original CBCs - these kind of employers are demanding transcripts which for some people from certain countries are not easy to get especially if their university education took place a number of decades ago.

The new requirements are expensive enough without trying to get applicants to pay even more money for transcripts. At some universities these take a fair bit of time to get and are expensive. It would be nice if people would wise up and tell unreasonable employers to take a short walk over a high cliff.

Don't go for those jobs so they have to only make the demands that are clearly outlined in the new regs. A case in point is a high school in Suncheon demanding them which is advertising here. I note that Suncheon is completely out of the loop of things that make it easier for foreigners to live in Korea.

I've never worked in Jeollanam Do but I do know that the unhappiest foreigners I've met in Korea worked there or similar places. No English speaking services, widespread inability of the people in govt offices and vital services to communicate with English teachers about important things that affect their lives and pockets, far away from the normality of a city like Seoul. A school in a backwater like Suncheon shouldn't be demanding extra documents - what a joke. Rolling Eyes
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jamal0000



Joined: 11 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They probably haven't updated their website, heard of the new regulations, or understand them. It's only been a few months since the transcript requirement has been dropped. Don't sweat it man.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much all P.S jobs (according to certain P.S recruiters on here) ask for transcripts.

The Immigration requirements are only to get a E-2 visa, not to get employment.

Employment requirements can not be lower than the Immigration requirements, but it is perfectly legal to make them higher.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually for Canadians since we do not have the appostille regs we have to get out degrees verified by the closest Korean consulate and one of the rules for getting it done is a surprise a transcript and it has be less then six months old? Why six months I really am confused about. Also I would not be surprised even with the changes that immigration and other government officials will still want transcripts. So maybe the schools and recruiters are still asking for them because they feel the will still be needed.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recruiters ask for transcripts just in case immigration officials want them. The regs are not 100% clear or followed the same by every official.

earthquakez wrote:
The new requirements are expensive enough without trying to get applicants to pay even more money for transcripts.


This is Korea, U better get hold of every possible potential piece of paper imaginable.
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b-class rambler



Joined: 25 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:


Employment requirements can not be lower than the Immigration requirements, but it is perfectly legal to make them higher.


This is what some people don't seem to get.



Once visa requirements have been complied with, it's entirely up to the employer concerned to impose whatever legally allowed conditions they see fit to their offer of employment. And it's entirely up to the applicant to either jump through those hoops if they sufficiently want the job, or look elsewhere if they think they can get the same or better without jumping through the same hoops.

If an employer imposes unreasonable conditions and they struggle to get applicants of the quality they want, then they'll realise soon enough.

If it becomes apparent that an employer is only asking for something because they're under the erroneous impression that it's a visa requirement then it's sensible enough to query it. But if it's something they still want anyway, I'm afraid that's just the way job markets anywhere work and, as an applicant, you've got to just decide accordingly.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's one thing to require it for getting the job, but it's strange to request so much just to apply. I could see asking for these things brought to an interview, but it seems some employers require all documents in the initial application.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, perhaps, and then again, perhaps not. They might be trying to weed out those candidates that cannot obtain them before wasting time on interviewing them.

There have been times that I have responded to ads by requesting additional information or clarification just to be told to send a resume. Result, job ignored. By requesting the information before spending the time to gather and send a resume and related documents, only to find out the job did not offer what I was looking for at the interview, I was trying to limit time wasted.

Perhaps these employers are trying to do the same.
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alphakennyone



Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Location: city heights

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the public schools want to make sure we meet the stringent 2.0 GPA requirement. I think they upped it to 2.3 or something. I lol'd anyway.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's jobs wanting a apositled copy of your degree to apply. That's crazy.

"11. Application must include the following documents:
1) A resume with attached photo
2) A certified copy of all university diplomas authenticated by the Korean Consulate or The Korean Council for University Education.
3) Official University transcripts from each university attended.
4) Copies of a passport and an alien card"

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=44694

And it must be mailed in.
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gogophoto



Joined: 20 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
There's jobs wanting a apositled copy of your degree to apply. That's crazy.


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't an apostilled copy of your diploma now the standard under the new visa requirements? It is my impression that the original won't even be accepted anymore.