Korean Job Discussion Forums

[crazylemongirl]

1. I don't teach writing. I teach kids how to speak. I have no problems admitting that I am terrible at spelling. However making the odd spelling mistake isn't exactly in the same league as falsifying documents.

[TECO]

My view is that if bureaucracies of Taiwan, Korea and Thailand are so unorganized and riddled with corruption to allow for this kind of thing to happen, then�. It� their country. Let the governments work it out for themselves.

Lemon girl, are you a member of KOTESL or any other ELT organizations?

I suggest if you�re so concerned about the state of ELT that maybe you could start devoting some of your time by encouraging the Korean government and other governments in Asia to start regulating the state of ELT in their countries more thoroughly.

Let�s be honest - the current state of ELT around the world is pathetic. Private schools in Taiwan pop up every day without licenses or proper visas for the foreign teachers they hire. The school owners treat the local staff and EFL teachers in any way they see fit without being held accountable by local governments. These schools hire foreigners to teach their children without even conducting minor background checks or criminal records checks of the people they hire.

Private schools in Taiwan, Korea and other countries routinely lie to local governments in order to obtain work visas for the foreigners they hire to teach English. Many of the private schools are owned by high-level police officers, bureaucrats and politicians.

Private schools ask for a first degree in any discipline while completely ignoring any TESL or EFL formal training and qualifications. Why do you think school owners ask for a degree? Not out of any concern for the academic qualifications of their teachers. Don�t be so na�ve!

ELT is all business, always has been and it has very little to do with education.

[Mr. Pink]

[TECO]

Is someone with a B.A. degree in biology or computer science more deserving and qualified to teach EFL in Asia over someone without a degree? I don�t think so. Yet there are plenty of people with completely unrelated degrees and who have had no formal ELT training teaching all over Asia.

As long as ELT is a business propelled by commerce $$$ education will always to take a back seat. ELT is not about �education�

Preachers, should go back to Canada where private and public schools must comply with local laws and require teachers to have qualifications and experience and who will do background checks on teachers they hire.

Taiwanese, Vietnamese and Korean business people don�t give a shi t about your noble ideals and morals. You�re not in Australia anymore and your morals and your notions of what �right� and �wrong� mean don�t apply in Asia and probably never will.

The preachers have the nerve to come to Asia, make a good living from a business that screws people left, right and centre and then criticizes people who want to use a fake degree to get a job!

The hypocrisy is unbelievable!

[TECO]

[Homer]

TECO...thats all fine and dandy but what do you propose to replace having a university degree as a minimum requirement for teachers here?

You do relaize of course that in due time the industry's standards here will raise and the minimum requirement will most likely become a university degree in Education or English.


Finally

[Mr. Pink]

[Juggertha]

funny you said that Pink cuz I know of someone who DID JUST THAT. hehe.

earned enough money to get a real degree.

and was one of the best teacher I ever saw (at least over here)

[TECO]

Private schools dont' give a schit about degrees or TESOL/TEFL training.

Bottom line. If a guy has a heart beat, is breathing and can do what he's told and he isn't black - he'll make a great ELT teacher in China, Taiwan and Japan!!

Ha, aha!!

[Homer]

[TECO]

Homer -

Your reply is typical of the kind of person that is trying to ruin this 'profession.'

[Homer]

Ruin this profession?


I think not TECO....more like make it better.

[TECO]

NO, I disagree.

[Homer]

[chronicpride]