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rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Some of us try hard to improve our teaching skills and do a good job, as a matter of personal satisfaction. And most of us are not here because we're losers at everything else. It annoys me that the trash of the western world can pitch up in korea and other Asian countries, get paid the same as better teachers, and make a mockery of what is actually an honorable profession- teaching. What worries me too is that koreans hire based on appearance, desperation to find any westerner, nationality and other flawed criteria... The shallowness and naivety of Koreans is also to blame. Its high time the trash was taken out. Cambodia's a case in point, I truly feel sorry for that country, playing host to the very worst scum, paedophiles and idiots that the western world rejects..
Anyway, he's moving on- you can breathe a sigh of relief, well done. Why not suggest to your boss that you assist in his future employee selection/ screening process? Koreans don't have a clue when judging the characters of westerners, they're often impressed by the biggest idiots...

khyber · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction

OiGirl · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun

khyber · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction

misunderstanding.
As far as i know, every state has a "Teacher's union". That's what i mean when said the union wouldn't take him.

Falstaff · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: Ansan

Actually, there are several states that do not allow teachers to unionize. (I currently teach in one). The logic goes that we are essential state employees, and therefore not allowed to strike. We can have professional organizations which lobby on our behalf, but we cannot engage in collective bargaining, strikes, or other "union" activities. Unionized states are common in the Northeast in Midwest, less so in the West, and virtually non-existent in the South.

OiGirl · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun

khyber · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction

so...i thought it's time to create another entrance into this wonderful diary of my coworker.
Well, i finally figured it out: His self pitious, self righteousness is only eclisped by his stubbornness.
Eg: He was asking, trying to corner a korean teacher at our last meeting "Well what the fu--ck (yes...quite a charmer) do you propose i do....i mean these little sh---its (oh yes...) are just as bad as they come and what the hell do you think i should do. I tell you what i wanna do, i just wanna put them over my knee".
To which i replied "Well, instead of doing that, why don't you do a system that works (a system which i had told him about before that has done wonders in our school).". There was a minute and a half pause where he was thinking, then he said "Man, my job isn't to bribe students. If they can't be good students, then they shouldn't be in that class".
Now, call me an idiot, but if that were the case, every class in any school would be filled with perfect students. Not only that but, in private schools, there would be no such thing as a "discipline problem". Is it just me or is it now just unreasonable to expect kids to be perfect?
He isn't of the opinion that discipline is a teachers problem.
He's been in korea for a year and a half apparently....AND been in 4 schools (wTF???) and he says that this is the worst one... please...honestly, my classes aren't perfect but they are quiet when i want them to be and they are responsive to me...what else should i want here in sk?
THEN he comes to the end of speach number two with the very calming, "I'd rather commit suicide than teacher in Korea again...you know, i've been saying this over and over for the last week, {dramatic pause} i'd rather commit suicide than teach at this school". And it's true, every day me makes some kinda crap about jumping off a building, of course i never say do it or "no don't"...cause he's just lookin for pity.

This is is beyond a lost cause. He throws around his "I have a masters" certificate around as though we are going to be silenced by the mere presence of it. Gotta tell you, his personality is much more freaky than any degree he could have.

that's all for now...though i could crash the web with stories of the retarded things this guy says

nev · Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Location: ch7t

I know the sort of people. He's not worth even thinking about - a total waste of everyone's time - but when you live and work with him that's pretty hard to do. Set fire to him as he sleeps, that's my best advice.

lush72 · Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: I am Penalty Kick!

Sheeon- where is your outrage here? Why no love for this wangta? I think we both know why! Wink

rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

The guy has a point khyber..
I mean do you agree that a teacher should constantly have to bribe his students with gifts and candy in order to win their attention and respect?

I don't. I think there should be an effective disciplinary system in place that ensures the kids behave, thus actually learn something.
I've come to realise discipline is non existent in hagwon world...I'm not straining my voice or shelling out on candies any more to keep their attention. I just let them go nuts nowadays, cos nothing works...

Mr. Pink · Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

what come to school one hour early for no pay?

the hours should be clearly specified in your contract!

Teachers who continually lie down for this crap make it harder for the rest of us. You want me there one hour before class starts for prep? Pay me for it!

i am tired of hearing the bleeding hearts say we have to suck it up a bit for the measly amount we are payed for the work we do.

You want people to work an extra hour pay them you cheap bugger!

Nuff said

or you could be like Joe Thanks, cry like a little baby and quit. Of course if you equate running away like a crybaby with being a man then Joe you da man Laughing

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

khyber · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction

you people have a very closed sense of discipline.
Do you all subscribe to the "whip the donkey" instead of "lead him with a carrot"?

Why do you think it's gifts and candy?
70% of the time it's games, straight up activity games or the ODD game of uno etc...

He has made "off color jokes"/threats about killing us while we sleep if the school doesn't make the situation better for him.

For those of you who STILL disbelieve (or at least believe he is easily avoided), when we crossed the idea of a little april fools mischief, he said, "Don't do i or i'll burn the house down" at which point my fiance and i sort of looked at each other and shook our heads, "No really, I will, that's just how i am right now".

rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

I suppose when you get to his age and have little going for you in life, something snaps and you don't give a d**m what anyone thinks anymore. So long as you're surviving.....you become totally self-centred, just looking out for No.1. its a dangerous state to be in...