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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Poltergeist wrote: |
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| It would probably take 5 years to get to TOKIK level for doing classes on the weekends. Not really half the program at all. |
Are you sure no one has ever said that before in the history of Dave's? |
I can tell you no one has said it in this thread because I actually read it without expecting someone to spoonfeed me. The way you worded your question and what you asked made that clear. Had you asked only for English contact info than it would have at least seemed like you were making an effort to understand what was being written. And it also wasn't somewhere in the history. It was on the only other page in this short thread |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
| Poltergeist wrote: |
| bbud656 wrote: |
| It would probably take 5 years to get to TOKIK level for doing classes on the weekends. Not really half the program at all. |
Are you sure no one has ever said that before in the history of Dave's? |
I can tell you no one has said it in this thread because I actually read it without expecting someone to spoonfeed me. The way you worded your question and what you asked made that clear. Had you asked only for English contact info than it would have at least seemed like you were making an effort to understand what was being written. And it also wasn't somewhere in the history. It was on the only other page in this short thread |
This thread isn't a very helpful one. There was nothing wrong with my question and if you didn't like it, you could have stayed away. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| It is 100 hours (6 months) per TOPIK level, so a beginner would need about 2 years of class to be able to take the culture class. So, 2.5 years of no weekends. I really don't want this Visa that bad. |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| bbud656 wrote: |
| It is 100 hours (6 months) per TOPIK level, so a beginner would need about 2 years of class to be able to take the culture class. So, 2.5 years of no weekends. I really don't want this Visa that bad. |
Thank you. That makes a difference--in 2.5 years I'll have the same number of "age" points as I have now. In five years, I won't. I don't know if I'll pursue the visa or not, but your post is a lot more helpful than a picture of a woman eating her own diarrhea. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Reading through this thread makes me realize marrying a Korean is a far easier way to getting an F-Visa.
If half the course is cultural awareness, then that's 250 hours of Korean culture. Good lord! |
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McSalty
Joined: 14 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I visited the KIIP office on the second floor of integration to ask about the specifics of the program.
- They expect to have registration available in February and the program to start shortly thereafter (March?). At that time, registrations will be available on their website, http://kiip.kr/
- You take a test when you enroll in the program to determine how much of the program you test out of. It is not the TOPIK test itself, and I was told it's similar but much easier than TOPIK. However maybe he was comparing it to level 5/6.
- The full program is 450 hours -- 400 for the language components, and 50 for the culture class. 50 class hours takes roughly 3 months, so for someone who speaks absolutely no Korean the entire class would take about 2.5 years (not a walk in the park like some have suggested)
* I asked specifically regarding my Korean level -- for someone who is capable of passing Topik level 3, the entire program will take around 6 months to a year (depending on your test score at the time of application).
Again, registrations won't be open until February and the test will be administered shortly thereafter, so I for one am going to study my ass off for the next three months. It could mean a difference of 6 months of classes.
Just a side note for people who fill up what should be an informative thread with ego tripping and petty arguing -- you know, you could just not respond. It's not going to kill you to let the other guy get the last word 
Cheers,
McSalty |
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Poltergeist
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I visited the KIIP office on the second floor of integration to ask about the specifics of the program.
- They expect to have registration available in February and the program to start shortly thereafter (March?). At that time, registrations will be available on their website, http://kiip.kr/
- You take a test when you enroll in the program to determine how much of the program you test out of. It is not the TOPIK test itself, and I was told it's similar but much easier than TOPIK. However maybe he was comparing it to level 5/6.
- The full program is 450 hours -- 400 for the language components, and 50 for the culture class. 50 class hours takes roughly 3 months, so for someone who speaks absolutely no Korean the entire class would take about 2.5 years (not a walk in the park like some have suggested)
* I asked specifically regarding my Korean level -- for someone who is capable of passing Topik level 3, the entire program will take around 6 months to a year (depending on your test score at the time of application).
Again, registrations won't be open until February and the test will be administered shortly thereafter, so I for one am going to study my ass off for the next three months. It could mean a difference of 6 months of classes.
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Thanks for the information. I'm not an absolute beginner, but the next level up might be too hard. It's worth looking into. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, something to find out is if there is a test at every level once you complete the class. It would be a shame to go through that class and not pass the test and have to sit through six months again. |
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waseige1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| bbud656 wrote: |
| Also, something to find out is if there is a test at every level once you complete the class. It would be a shame to go through that class and not pass the test and have to sit through six months again. |
My Korean friend who has looked at this for me (and called immi) says there is a mid term and final at every level. If you fail the midterm you are out and start over. If you fail the final, you go back.
People married to Koreans have a lower pass score than singles. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| waseige1 wrote: |
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| Also, something to find out is if there is a test at every level once you complete the class. It would be a shame to go through that class and not pass the test and have to sit through six months again. |
My Korean friend who has looked at this for me (and called immi) says there is a mid term and final at every level. If you fail the midterm you are out and start over. If you fail the final, you go back.
People married to Koreans have a lower pass score than singles. |
I think if I were to do this, I'd study the language programme at the Migrant Centre until I got up to the level needed to do the second half of it.
Kind of tough that if you fail the mid-term you're out. And odd that single people score higher than those married to Koreans. I would have figured it'd be the other way around. |
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waseige1
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| waseige1 wrote: |
| bbud656 wrote: |
| Also, something to find out is if there is a test at every level once you complete the class. It would be a shame to go through that class and not pass the test and have to sit through six months again. |
My Korean friend who has looked at this for me (and called immi) says there is a mid term and final at every level. If you fail the midterm you are out and start over. If you fail the final, you go back.
People married to Koreans have a lower pass score than singles. |
I think if I were to do this, I'd study the language programme at the Migrant Centre until I got up to the level needed to do the second half of it.
Kind of tough that if you fail the mid-term you're out. And odd that single people score higher than those married to Koreans. I would have figured it'd be the other way around. |
I am sorry, my language is bad. What I meant is you have a lower threshold to pass if you are married.
I don't know the real numbers but for example, married pass at 70% correct. Singles need an 80% correct. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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I think I'd prefer to have holes drilled into my skull without anaesthesia, rather than take active steps to fully "integrate myself".
it would mean acceptance of Confucian precepts I reject with every fiber of my inner being. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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well, this is for the foreign brides of the country boys here, arent they?
when i read the title, I just took it another way they want "whitey to stay out of the way and eat the kimchi"
isnt it a shame that in 2011, people still rant on about this. seriously, everyone born before 1988 really need to go out to pasture and recognize the current K landscape, no? |
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Lolimahro
Joined: 19 May 2009
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With the culture class (kiip.go.kr) there are four language level classes and then the culture class itself.
Has anyone found any information on WHEN these classes are?
Are they primarily at night or during the day?
I live in Busan so info on Busan would be particularly helpful, but classes country wide would be of interest too.
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You need to contact Immigration to register for the course. Here is what I did:
1) go to hikorea.go.kr and set up an account for yourself
2) (you will need help with this one if you don't speak Korean) You have to register for the course, which is called 사회통합프로그램; using the Korean version of the site (the English registration for the program is not up and running yet). There is an explanation of how to do this in Korean on www.kiip.kr
3) once registered, you will have to take a placement exam to determine your Korean level. The next exam is on February 12 at 1:00pm. No word on where its location will be yet (I'm assuming there will be a number of them). Watch the KIIP website and they should (hopefully) post the location soon.
After you take the exam, the class starts sometime in February. There's a dearth of information available in English for those with a lower fluency level. I'm registered for the placement exam right now but have no idea what's going on really as of yet. |
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Update on the test from the website kiip.kr:
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2011년 제1차 사전평가(레벨테스트)를 2월 12일(토) 13:00에 전국 동시 실시합니다.
시험장소는 2월 10일까지 본 홈페이지 공지사항에 게시 예정입니다..
사회통합프로그램 참여신청을 완료하고 "신청접수증"을 발급받은 신청자는
시험당일 "신청접수증", "신분증", "필기구" 등을 지참하시고 평가에 참여바랍니다. |
Essentially, this quote says the test will be held on Saturday, February 12 at 1:00pm in country-wide locations. The exact location(s) of the exam will be posted on the website by February 10.
When you go to the test site, be sure to bring your receipt of registration (which you can print out after you register on hikorea.go.kr), proof of identification (I'm assuming this means your passport or your ARC), and a pen. |
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has anyone heard anything more about when and where (possibly in the evening and somewhere near itaewon??) the kiip korean classes are usually held? i'm thinking about signing up for the february 12 test to take advantage of the free classes, but i don't want to go through the trouble if they're offered during the day and/or too far away from where i live to be convenient. |
I have heard from a friend of a friend that you can take the courses online. This particular person takes courses online for 2 hours a night every weeknight. I'm not sure how he got that option or anything like that; I'm assuming the best way to get info would be to call the people at KIIP, or maybe even your local Global Center for assistance in getting the information. |
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