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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: studying Spanish in Korea???? |
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| I know that HUFS has a Spanish language program; are there any others?? |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| At what level do you want to study? I've taken non-credit classes at the language center of a national university. |
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mariposita
Joined: 07 May 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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What area do you live in? I'll be in Bundang in about a month. Once I get settled in, perhaps I can help with pronunciation or conversation to supplement the classes. I have a Bachelor's in Spanish and despite being completely gringa, I have near native pronunciation and am fluent. Or if there isn't one already maybe we can start a Meetup (through meetup.com) for any others who are looking to learn Spanish to have conversation nights or culture nights.
I love languages and will miss speaking Spanish as often as I do now, so I'd be happy to help anyone who is trying to learn. |
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kburg385
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
Location: Bundang South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: Studying spanish |
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| Mariposita....where and when will you be in Bundang? I also live in Bundang and am interested in meeting up for Spanish conversation. I lived in Sevilla awhile back, and want to become fluent in the language. I love everything about Spanish culture, and think it would be great to get something going! |
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mariposita
Joined: 07 May 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
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kburg, I did a study abroad in Sevilla in 02! I miss it very much.
I will be working near the Migeum station but not sure how close I'll be living to the school yet. I was supposed to be there end of July, but I just found out I might be headed out in about 2 weeks instead - not sure of the exact date yet. I have another person who is interested in the meetup too. If you have PM capabilities, send me a message with your email and I'll keep you posted on when I arrive.
Anyone else who is interested in meeting up can PM me as well to get updated info when we can all get something started.
�Gracias! |
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tatu
Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I study Spanish through skype to Guatemala. One on one lessons and they supply teaching materials. $10 per hour. http://www.121speech.com/ I've been doing it for over a year and am very happy with it. |
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jrock
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine studied Spanish at an academy in Hongdae.
The upper level teachers were from Spain. |
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kburg385
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
Location: Bundang South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:44 am Post subject: spanish |
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mariposita - I just joined Dave's Esl, so I guess you have to have a minimum of 25 posts before you can send someone a personal message. But I will definitely give you my email, but obviously not on a public message board! Maybe you could message me with yours? Or update when you'll arrive.
Great, looking forward to it! |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to start studying Spanish from next year, and was wondering whether anyone could recommend a good textbook to work with, and whether there are any Spanish hagwons in Gangnam or the Bundang area?
I've come across a few books at Kyobo, but I'm not exactly sure which ones are the best. I'd initially be studying by myself, but would like to eventually take lessons. I can already speak Italian, so don't think I'd encounter too many problems learning Spanish. Any help would be appreciated. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| jrock wrote: |
A friend of mine studied Spanish at an academy in Hongdae.
The upper level teachers were from Spain. |
that's not necessarily a good thing. That Castillian lisp is atrocious. (say veces!)
I'd recommend most males ignore it/lose it/ don't use it.
unless you're into that sort of thing.
Best spanish would be from an educated Colombian, or DF Mexican. (the peasant singing Mexican Spanish is the worst though)
butterflysita, unless you have spent some time living in a Spanish native environment, I'd have to question your near native pronounication claim, though it's possible you're more talented than most gringos/gringas. Hearing Spanish with a pronounced gringo/a accent is akin to nails on a chalkboard.
(e.g. most US diplomats, Georgie W with hick gringo accent etc)
if someone's an actual native speaker, or Hispanic American who spoke Spanish at home, I'd be more than interested in hanging out/practicing my Spanish with you (and I could keep up fairly well you wouldn't have to dumb down the conversation).
Latinas preferred.
Hot Latinas will enjoy affirmative action  |
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mariposita
Joined: 07 May 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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As for the original question about textbooks...Plato, if you send me the names of the ones you are considering, I can check out my local bookstore down here and see which one I think would be most helpful. I started learning Italian after Spanish and one thing that was helpful for me was to get an Italian-Spanish dictionary. You would probably have to get that online (got mine from Amazon) but it's just something to consider because for me it was easier to translate words between those two languages than to include English since they are similar.
I also have a friend who works at a Spanish hagwon, I'll find out where it is.
Vagabundo, questioning my pronunciation is understandable. Most people do not believe me at first, but I assure you that I would not make such a claim if I had not heard it from several Spanish-speaking natives from several countries. I spent 4 months in Spain living with a woman who spoke no English. I had a long-term relationship with a man who only spoke Spanish and I worked for 6 months as a paralegal in an office where Spanish was the primary language. I was required to speak, listen and write it everyday in all of those circumstances. However, I've met lots of 'gringos' who have lived in Spanish countries far longer than I and still cannot speak it well, so you will just have to take my word on it unless 'kburg' jumps back on this convo since she has actually heard me speak it in person.
The Castillian lisp being something that 'most males ignore' depends on what the males need to learn Spanish for. If they are learning to end up in Spain then it would be easier to understand and to be understood if they know how and when to use it properly. If they are learning Spanish because they are heading to the Americas then learning from a Spaniard will not be helpful since not only the accent but a lot of the phrases and slang are different. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| jrock wrote: |
A friend of mine studied Spanish at an academy in Hongdae.
The upper level teachers were from Spain. |
that's not necessarily a good thing. That Castillian lisp is atrocious. (say veces!)
I'd recommend most males ignore it/lose it/ don't use it.
unless you're into that sort of thing.
Best spanish would be from an educated Colombian, or DF Mexican. (the peasant singing Mexican Spanish is the worst though)
butterflysita, unless you have spent some time living in a Spanish native environment, I'd have to question your near native pronounication claim, though it's possible you're more talented than most gringos/gringas. Hearing Spanish with a pronounced gringo/a accent is akin to nails on a chalkboard.
(e.g. most US diplomats, Georgie W with hick gringo accent etc)
if someone's an actual native speaker, or Hispanic American who spoke Spanish at home, I'd be more than interested in hanging out/practicing my Spanish with you (and I could keep up fairly well you wouldn't have to dumb down the conversation).
Latinas preferred.
Hot Latinas will enjoy affirmative action |
Vagabundo/Mariposa:
I guarantee that no native Spanish speaker thinks a Peninsular (Spanish) accent sounds gay or anything close to it. Trust me. They might think it's peculiar but there is absolutely no other stigma attached it besides something some people (usually Americans) attach to it.
There is no "good" or "bad" Spanish to learn. If one preoccupies himself/herself with such things, he/she will never learn Spanish well.
I don't think it's necessary to "localize" your Spanish. Learning slang perfectly from one country will help you get a feel for another country's slang. Everything is positive when it comes to learning.
Mariposa should post a sound clip and we can judge |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Btw, lived in Spain for 5 years. Native fluency. If anyone needs help with Spanish feel free to ask.
Can also recommend some good resources/books for learning. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Well, once I make a list of the books I'll send them on to you via PM. Then if you could perhaps recommend what you believe to be the better ones, I'd be grateful.
I'm thinking of going to South America at some point in the future, and I've heard that Spanish spoken in Spain and Spanish spoken in South America are different. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| mariposita wrote: |
Vagabundo, questioning my pronunciation is understandable. Most people do not believe me at first, but I assure you that I would not make such a claim if I had not heard it from several Spanish-speaking natives from several countries. I spent 4 months in Spain living with a woman who spoke no English. I had a long-term relationship with a man who only spoke Spanish and I worked for 6 months as a paralegal in an office where Spanish was the primary language. I was required to speak, listen and write it everyday in all of those circumstances. However, I've met lots of 'gringos' who have lived in Spanish countries far longer than I and still cannot speak it well, so you will just have to take my word on it unless 'kburg' jumps back on this convo since she has actually heard me speak it in person.
The Castillian lisp being something that 'most males ignore' depends on what the males need to learn Spanish for. If they are learning to end up in Spain then it would be easier to understand and to be understood if they know how and when to use it properly. If they are learning Spanish because they are heading to the Americas then learning from a Spaniard will not be helpful since not only the accent but a lot of the phrases and slang are different. |
No. I believe you, it's simply the exception rather than the norm.
I've had similar compliments, though they can tell I'm not native, they can't quite place it, especially so in the gringo category, which to me is about the highest compliment one can get. They'd sometimes assume I was Puerto Rican. (I'd get wood everytime that happened, I considered that the ultimate compliment)
but I had an opportunity to actually live there for a year, and I also have the benefit of a phonetic language being my original language, which helped me to avoid the first problems every gringo faces, that being their tendency to elongate the vowel sounds in the English manner.
and yes, I agree with your 2nd paragraph. Personally, Latin America is of much more interest to me though, though I retain affection for the mother country, outside of their lisping
If you want to hear phenomenal educated Spanish, with impeccable diction, listen to interviews with Vicente Fox or Jorge Castaneda.
What's interesting is that even in a place like Cuba, (in)famous for its slang and other licenses that it takes with the Spanish language, Fidel's speeches, or the commie nightly news nightpiece, La Mesa Redonda (The Round Table) their Spanish was once again, impeccable.
If you have in depth knowledge of another Romance language, then Spanish will be much easier to pick up (and vice versa). |
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