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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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| I really feel bad for you. Your anti-Christmas rant says a lot about how sad and empty your personal life must be. |
And your 'pro-Christmas' stance sows how superficial you are. If you do not care about people killing themselves then anything you say doesn't mean much.
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| the consumerism isn't as big outside the US). |
Ha Ha thanks for the chuckle. Not according to my friends in those countries which celebrate this holiday. America just goes overboard because the government wants its people distracted from all the problems the country faces.
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| I've seen one Salvation Army collector |
The most annoying people in the world.
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It is.
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| You have probably been in Korea way too long |
No, it puts the holiday in perspective. When I first came here, the big stores were all open, no music, no decorations and it was great. To not be bombarded with sales, and pitches, or pressure to buy, buy, buy one could actually enjoy the time of year and appreciate it. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I really feel bad for you. Your anti-Christmas rant says a lot about how sad and empty your personal life must be. |
And your 'pro-Christmas' stance sows how superficial you are. If you do not care about people killing themselves then anything you say doesn't mean much.
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| the consumerism isn't as big outside the US). |
Ha Ha thanks for the chuckle. Not according to my friends in those countries which celebrate this holiday. America just goes overboard because the government wants its people distracted from all the problems the country faces.
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What are you talking about? It's already been posted on this thread that, "the suicide rate is, in fact, the lowest in December."
Yes, I'm sure the reason people put up lights, go around caroling, have parties, buy each other gifts etc., is because the government wants them to be distracted from all the country's problems. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Why I no longer like spending Xmas in the West |
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And how is it different from celebrating Christmas in the East? |
This. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Why I no longer like spending Xmas in the West |
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1) The endless parade of Xmas songs, including hip-hop and remixed versions.
2) The use of the holiday to sell everything under the sun.
3) In the U.S., December tends to be the month with the highest rates of armed robbery or mugging and depression and suicide.
4) Many bad Xmas movies.
5) The flooding of shopping malls with people.
6) Pressure to buy people gifts.
7) The fact that Xmas starts after Thanksgiving and lasts and lasts and lasts (though it's worse in the Philippines, where they start playing Xmas songs in OCTOBER!).
 Putting up an Xmas tree can be a hassle. |
You forget, 9) all the fat heifers in the USA stuffing their faces on Turkey and Christmas Cake, something you've talked about on here ad nauseum. |
Yep, thanks for reminding me. It seems Americans gain more than a few pounds (or tons) after Christmas and New Year's. |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Christmas is way cooler here in Korea for a number of reasons.
1st off. You can do whatever the hell you want. Want to go to Thailand. Done
2nd. Have your own party and get deeerunk.
3rd. If you work for hagwons it is over and done with in one day. Xmas in
the states lasts for just too long. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Christmas seems totally removed from the culture/religious aspects, and seems like another Pepporro (?) day here. When I see advertising here; it bothers me more than back home. But at least there isn't much of it. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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1) The endless parade of Xmas songs, including hip-hop and remixed versions.
Yes, because endless K-pop all YEAR round is so much better.
3) In the U.S., December tends to be the month with the highest rates of armed robbery or mugging and depression and suicide.
Higher robbery: agreed. Depression and suicide? you prefer your suicides to be spread out but in larger amounts as in Korea?
5) The flooding of shopping malls with people.
Visit COEX on a weekend.
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Christ that was funny...Christmas back home would be a relief after this stuff all year here.
I do like getting away from the commercialization of Christmas though. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like things about Christmas.
In particular, money. I hate spending money. Even when I had to resort to buying a card, I had to search long and hard for the cheapest ones. I probably spent more money having to fill my body up with energy from food after searching for so long. Lousy unsustaining body.
I don't like cards in general. Every year I insist to people I know will get me one, NOT to get me one. I despise the entire scenario: 'Here's a card, MERRY CHRISTMAS!'
'..thanks'
*opens*
It says 'MERRY CHRISTMAS!'
'Oh... thanks, you just said that to my face but whatever, as long as you could help towards killing a tree in the process, I'm happy'.
That and my Mum's side of the family (split since I was 3) isn't exactly very well off, so I hate that they go hungry for a month so they can provide gifts to people. At least if I say forget about me, she'll just give me like... a bottle of water and save money.
That and I hate having to think about what to get people. 99% of my life I've just... not gotten anything for anyone, but this year It's inevitable that I'll have to send stuff over, meaning I need to think of stuff for lots of people... urgh.
However, I like the reminiscent memories of curling up with my big dog by the fire with Moody blues or jean michelle jarre or various Christmas songs being played quietly.
However, I hated that, because it was all so long lasting, the end was horrible and I hated going back to reality.
Here, it's just one day where I'm sitting alone in my room, imagining everyone else to be having fun, and then I go to china 4 days later. Oh crap, I need to buy the tickets already.
Argh, crap, I'm gonna be late for work. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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At work back home, I'd give gifts to my favorite coworkers, and stick post-its on them that said:
Happy Holidays!
I hate cards.
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NYC_Gal
The gifts could be store bought, something nice from a local bakery or farmers' market, or even homemade goodies. It was a nice way to say that I cared to those who made the workplace enjoyable. |
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snowysunshine
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I LOVE Christmas, and was homesick my first Christmas in Korea.
When I went home, though, after six years in Korea, I actually ended up missing Christmas in Korea. It's much more relaxed, and there isn't so much pressure, like back home.
It's nice to be back for Christmas this year! |
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whitestboyalive
Joined: 09 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Christmas is what you make of it. If you're a negative person, then you'll hate it because of **insert reasons here**. If you're positive, you'll enjoy the time off and hopefully build relationships with the important people around you. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Why I no longer like spending Xmas in the West |
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| Yaya wrote: |
1) The endless parade of Xmas songs, including hip-hop and remixed versions.
2) The use of the holiday to sell everything under the sun.
3) In the U.S., December tends to be the month with the highest rates of armed robbery or mugging and depression and suicide.
4) Many bad Xmas movies.
5) The flooding of shopping malls with people.
6) Pressure to buy people gifts.
7) The fact that Xmas starts after Thanksgiving and lasts and lasts and lasts (though it's worse in the Philippines, where they start playing Xmas songs in OCTOBER!).
Putting up an Xmas tree can be a hassle. |
You don't like spending Xmas in the West because they don't have cheap prostitutes. Don't you go to the Philippines and Thailand every extended vacation you get to partake with the ladies of the night???
Isn't that the REAL reason you don't like Xmas in the West???
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| I really feel bad for you. Your anti-Christmas rant says a lot about how sad and empty your personal life must be. |
And your 'pro-Christmas' stance sows how superficial you are. If you do not care about people killing themselves then anything you say doesn't mean much.
ETC.
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I can't believe that any thread about Christmas, even on a site as wretched as this, could devolve into people taking gianormous #$%s on each other.
Excuse me, I have to go give some money to some homeless people and restore someone's belief that the world can be kind. |
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Tamada
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Seems like the thread is another excuse for the (gyopo) op to engage in yet more USA/American bashing.  |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Reasons why Christmas is better in the West:
1. If Christmas is on a Saturday (like this year) you get Christmas Eve off too. In the case of the UK, you obviously get Boxing Day off too.
2. The week between Christmas and New Year's is dead quiet in the workplace. It also makes commuting a lot more pleasant.
3. Holiday parties. sure, some are awful, but they're almost all entertaining in one way or another.
I'm actually not a big Christmas person and used to disdain this time of year for the reasons people have provided on this thread. On the other hand, if one is single it is pretty easy to not get caught up in the BS part of the season. Consequently I'm now pretty neutral about Christmas. I imagine it would be much more difficult with having a fam. |
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