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derbot
Joined: 04 May 2010
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Best decade for music? It has to be the noughties. No longer was "good" music chosen for us. For the first time people didn't have to rely on record industries and radio airplay to discover music they liked. You could decide on your mood, Google what you think might suit you and, holy sh*t, you have a new favourite band.
For bands, recording and releasing music had never been cheaper or easier. OK, the profits of writing a hit album will never be the same as they were, but that's probably not a bad thing. At least the smaller bands could find a fan base that would have been impossible in the past.
For variety and quality, I'm going with the noughties.
(Also, the beginning of the collapse of the over payed record industry) |
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nzbradly78
Joined: 23 Mar 2009
Location: Czech Republic
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say the 60's, for all genres. And whoever is comparing Radiohead and those other bands to the Beatles, please! I like some of Radiohead's stuff, but better than the Beatles? Listen to full albums and not a few singles. Rubber Soul and Revolver are a good place to start. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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^^^That was me, and I grew up with The Beatles.
I know every song, and I know every album-- both American and British pressings. I've listened to the later albums probably well over 40 times each. I've also read a number of really long books on The Beatles... their recording sessions, essays dissecting each single they ever did, etc... don't get me wrong, I have a lot of love for everything they've done... I don't think I'd be able to consider myself even an amateur musician otherwise. I just don't think that they would be so huge today if they weren't so imprinted on the public consciousness in the indisputable way that they are... and I definitely don't think that they're the be-all end-all of popular music.
And which is the better band-- the one who can capture the attentions of a majority used to having their attentions directed and manipulated by the record industry and its limited stable of carefully-selected artists?
Or the band who can capture the attentions of a majority whose tastes are now more refined, and are now more difficult to surprise, virtually impossible to impress, and easily distracted?
I'm going to have to go with the latter. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Stalin84 wrote: |
For me, it was the 1990s. This is probably because I was a kid in the 90s and The Smashing Pumpkins/Green Day/Nirvana et. al were my life soundtrack.
I think everyone in this thread is probably going to go with the decade that they grew up in 
I'll try to be objective: 90s > 80s, every decade > 2000s. I don't care much for anything before the 80s with a few exceptions. |
The good music was really only like 1989-1995 though. After Cobain died, Alice in Chains broke up, Smashing Pumpkins fired their drummer, etc. it went downhill pretty steeply.
Grunge music was fantastic but all those grunge musicians were doing copious amounts of horse, and that severely limited their shelf life.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was the zenith of the grunge era. The Pumpkins killed it. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| silkhighway wrote: |
Some of my favourite bands defined by this decade including beside what you listed are White Stripes, The Strokes, Broken Social Scene, Sam Roberts, Kings of Leon, and although I'm reluctant to admit it, I actually don't mind a few of the Killers and Coldplay songs. |
*shudder*
Anyway, I'd also say the 2000's for what somebody else has said - That more music is more accessible than ever now, and also someone touched on the subject that the 2000's is a more established, refined age. the 70's and 80's discovered synth and look what happened there...
Each decade *discovered* something and abused it. The 2000's is finally the point where they all seem to have come together and become refined.
Listen to the synth, the pure brilliance of production. Sure mainstream bands don't tend to cover as many chord progressions now and stick to 2 second loops a lot, but the actual work that goes into it is no less. And to me the outcome is preferred.
Then there's the classical section that seems largely ignored. I think in the same way of refinement, some of the best composers have come out of this decade. Where cage and experimentalists dominated the 60's and on, it's now come to a point where certain compositional techniques are no longer considered experimental and are now being used as standard functions in context with everything else. It's a wonderful feeling.
Pop music - PARTICULARLY J-pop - is becoming more daring intellectually, and yet still being accepted by the public ear and they don't even know it. The only ones dragging behind seemingly stuck in the 90's is K-pop. And there's nothing I can do, despite trying honestly and in an unbiased manner, to justify it. I suspect K-bands are put together specifically to use in advertisement, really. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Best music ever produced was between 1964 and 1973.
But, yes, we are all quite lucky that we can listen to a lot of it for free because of the Internet but it certainly would have been a lot more fun to have been there, felt the buzz, seen a show and waited with bated breath for the next record to come out. I certainly cannot do that now.
And, I still do not understand how people can bash the Beatles. They produced so much great music! Even if you don't personally like their style, I'd like to think you would at least appreciate what they did for popular music. Musical artists who produced popular music didn't even write their own songs before the Beatles - that alone deserves our appreciation. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| Stalin84 wrote: |
For me, it was the 1990s. This is probably because I was a kid in the 90s and The Smashing Pumpkins/Green Day/Nirvana et. al were my life soundtrack.
I think everyone in this thread is probably going to go with the decade that they grew up in
I'll try to be objective: 90s > 80s, every decade > 2000s. I don't care much for anything before the 80s with a few exceptions. |
The good music was really only like 1989-1995 though. After Cobain died, Alice in Chains broke up, Smashing Pumpkins fired their drummer, etc. it went downhill pretty steeply.
Grunge music was fantastic but all those grunge musicians were doing copious amounts of horse, and that severely limited their shelf life.
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness was the zenith of the grunge era. The Pumpkins killed it. |
I was a small child through most of the 90s so I liked Blink 182 and all those other "disposable" acts that came out during that time. As an adult I very much agree with you, although I'd like to add that even the disposable, bubblegum music of the 90s is significantly better than stuff on the radio today that is considered good. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Unposter wrote: |
| And, I still do not understand how people can bash the Beatles. |
I don't think anyone is bashing them. |
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Globutron
Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| Unposter wrote: |
| And, I still do not understand how people can bash the Beatles. |
I don't think anyone is bashing them. |
My granddad, suspiciously only a few days before he died, bashed the beatles because, I quote 'they didn't make anything to remember them by, there was no catchy tune, no melody'.
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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My favorite albums by decade:
1960's
Beatles, 'Sgt Pepper'
Love, 'Forever Changes'
Moody Blues, 'Days of Future Passed'
Jimi Hendrix Experience, 'Are You Experienced?'
King Crimson, 'In the Court of the Crimson King'
Pink Floyd, 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn'
Byrds, 'Notorious Byrd Bros'
1970's
Led Zeppelin, 'III'
Led Zeppelin, 'Physical Grafiti'
The Doors, 'LA Woman'
Yes, 'Fragile'
Pink Floyd, 'Dark Side of the Moon'
Pink Floyd, 'Meddle'
Pink Floyd, 'Animals'
King Crimson, 'Red'
King Crimson, 'Lizard'
King Crimson, 'Larks Tongues in Aspic'
Wire, 'Pink Flag'
The Clash, 'The Clash'
Paul McCartney & Wings, 'Band on the Run'
Rolling Stones, 'Exile on Main St'
George Harrison, 'All Things Must Pass'
David Bowie, 'Heroes'
The Damned, 'Damned Damned Damned'
Beach Boys, 'Surf's Up'
Stevie Wonder, 'Innervisions'
Deep Purple, 'Deep Purple In Rock'
1980's
XTC, 'English Settlement'
Killing Joke, 'What's THIS For?'
Ultravox, 'Vienna'
Duran Duran, 'Duran Duran'
Duran Duran, 'Rio'
The Smiths, 'Strangeways Here We Come'
Kraftwerk, 'Computer World'
Prince, 'Purple Rain'
Godflesh, 'Streetcleaner'
Pet Shop Boys, 'Please'
A-ha, 'Hunting High & Low'
Human League, 'Dare'
Howard Jones, 'Humans' Lib'
Adam & the Ants, 'Kings of the Wild Frontier'
Art of Noise, 'Who's Afraid Of...?'
Depeche Mode, 'Music for the Masses'
Martha & the Muffins, 'This is the Ice Age'
David Bowie, 'Scary Monsters'
Tears for Fears, 'The Hurting'
Carnivore, 'Retaliation'
King Crimson, 'Discipline'
A Flock of Seagulls, 'A Flock of Seagulls'
Nirvana, 'Bleach'
Mudhoney, 'Superfuzz Bigmuff'
Anything by Iron Maiden
1990s
Soundgarden, 'Badmotorfinger'
Tiamat, 'Wildhoney'
Type O Negative, 'Slow Deep & Hard'
The La's, 'The La's'
Pet Shop Boys, 'Alternative'
The Divine Comedy, 'Casanova'
The Divine Comedy, 'Fin De Siecle'
Spirit Caravan, 'Dreamwheel EP'
Mezarkabul, 'Anatolia'
Tool, 'Aenima'
Opeth, 'Still Life'
King Crimson, 'THRAK'
Faith No More, 'Angel Dust'
Slayer, 'Seasons in the Abyss'
Megadeth, 'Rust in Peace'
2000's
Tool, 'Lateralus'
Tool, '10,000 Days'
Orphaned Land, 'Mabool'
Opeth, 'Watershed'
Guns N Roses, 'Chinese Democracy'
Killing Joke, 'Hossanas from the Basement of Hell'
Godflesh, 'Hymns'
King Crimson, 'The Power to Believe'
Radiohead, 'Kid A'
Kraftwerk, 'Tour De France Soundtracks'
Depeche Mode, 'Playing the Angel' |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| Globutron wrote: |
| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
| Unposter wrote: |
| And, I still do not understand how people can bash the Beatles. |
I don't think anyone is bashing them. |
My granddad, suspiciously only a few days before he died, bashed the beatles because, I quote 'they didn't make anything to remember them by, there was no catchy tune, no melody'.
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Sorry, my bad.
Apparently Globutron's granddad was bashing them. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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How can you have a list of best albums and have Led Zeppelin's III and Physical Graffiti, but not I, II, or IV?!
OK, nevermind, I see Chinese Democracy on there and realize you're just joking |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| How can you have a list of best albums and have Led Zeppelin's III and Physical Graffiti, but not I, II, or IV?! |
Bored of them.
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| OK, nevermind, I see Chinese Democracy on there and realize you're just joking |
Great album. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, III and Graffiti are my favorites too... especially III. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I find it hard to take this thread very seriously. A "best decade for music" discussion and almost all the decades mentioned are very recent. Modern man seems to have this idea that everything older is inferior. Some posters are even mentioning this past decade. That music hasn't even had a chance yet to be tested by time to see if it has staying power. Meanwhile, world famous composers from more than a century ago who were both creative and prolific don't even get mentioned though their music is still listened to and enjoyed today. |
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