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creeper1
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 Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: Don't forget |
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| Any of those methods are fine. Don't forget craigslist. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="TheUrbanMyth"]
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| eb wrote: |
The market is not that saturated. This is just an apparent situation created by incompetent and dishonest recruiters.
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So all the numbers of people coming over here are just an illusion? Also keep in mind that programs such as both SMOE and TALK were over-subscribed in recent years.
And note the flood of requests for female teachers (check out a few job boards) Many schools are starting to become more picky because they can. |
I got a job a couple months ago. It took me about a week to get a bunch of offers in Seoul/Gyeongido. I checked out the schools. Some were rubbish. Some were good. I waited for another week to see what else would come up before accepting one. So two weeks total job hunting. If you're here in person and can get an E2 with a visa run to Japan, there are plenty of jobs. I know some teachers here who rarely spend a whole year at a job. From what they've told me they have no problems at all getting new jobs. But if you ask the recruiters, they'll tell you that the market is saturated. Largely it's because THEY are saturated with applicants. They advertise too much for jobs that they often don't have. It's to their advantage that you apply only to their agency. Even if they have no job for you, it's better to keep you waiting around until they get a job for you than for you to go to another agency or (go forbid) apply directly to a school, because it means that they have one less applicant when they DO get an opening.
I would agree with what people have said in other threads about the ELT job market in Korea not being as big now as it was 10 years ago, but it's by no means saturated.
BTW, in case anyone is wondering, I'm middle aged, male and not particularly good looking. |
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grandfunk
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Thought I would add to this, rather than start a new topic.
I'm a young Australian male looking to move to Seoul to further my Taekwondo training. I'll be training in Seoul, Dongdaemun-gu area.
I've done a lot of reading of this forum, but I haven't found a definitive specific answer to my questions.
Is all I have to do apply for a job through a recruiter (and get it), then they send me airfare, etc,everything, and my visa is organised that way? Is it really as simple as that?
I've got some money put aside, so I could just fly there myself and look for a job, but this would be a better way, right? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:22 am Post subject: |
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I did it last year ( 2009) and would not reccommend it to anyone for the following reasons"
1. If you don't have an established place to stay and a good savings account( limited funds) then it COULD be a very very bad situation ;as it takes more then a month alone to process the visa AND you would have to cover your OWN living expenses ( housing,food,transportation) during this time. Your more likely to just end up in a worse situation out sheer
desperation and anxiety of running out of funds'. If you go to Korea on a toursit visa, then you also need to be able show proof of a round-trip ticket ( so take that extra expense into account as well) and what will happen if you have to change the departure date (?). Penality?
2.You would be trying to find work in an extremely saturted market.
Just because your avaialble to come for an in-country interview, doesn't mean your going to automitcally be hired as there are many F-4's ( like Axiom) now that are applying and competing for those same exact ESL jobs and ( again Axiom) having the same exact though you have about just comming over and reestablishing thier Korean Connections. Don't forget.,they also already have thier own visa, which means no waiting time for schools' AND MANY more dobale industry qualifications ( like Axioms').
Not sayin' you couldn't do it, just think about it.I have been there and it is not pretty nor relaxing. In fact, it is quite the opposite.  . |
Exactly. good post.
Re: accomodation is trickier than it sounds. Because you don't know how long to book accomodation for (job hunt could take a day, could take 4 months).
And secondly it is much easier to prepare visa dcs while at home.
Thirdly..if you come in on two tourist visas in a row then they get suspicious and you have to justify why you are here and provie to immigration that you are not teaching illegally. |
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grandfunk
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the good post!
Ta |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Thirdly..if you come in on two tourist visas in a row then they get suspicious and you have to justify why you are here and provie to immigration that you are not teaching illegally. |
A tourist visa is three months for most (all?) of the seven countries though. It's unlikely that it would take you more than three months to find a job. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Junior wrote: |
| Thirdly..if you come in on two tourist visas in a row then they get suspicious and you have to justify why you are here and provie to immigration that you are not teaching illegally. |
A tourist visa is three months for most (all?) of the seven countries though. It's unlikely that it would take you more than three months to find a job. |
It's never taken me more than 3 WEEKS to get a job here. If it took me more than a month, i'd just head off to another country. Korea isn't worth waiting that long in the job line up. The low startup costs and the abundant jobs (e.g. short job hunting time) combined with the decent salary are what keep bringing me back. Cut one of those out of the equation and I'd be heading elsewhere.
I never understand how it takes people months to do it. I've even helped friends to job hunt here and it's never taken them more than a few weeks. |
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