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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| The problem is that the Korean Immigration doesn't tell ANYONE what is/isn't accepted while allowing Hagwon owners/Principals to do almost whatever they want. |
Do you expect American Immigration to allow drunk Koreans to enter the US? It goes both ways, people don't want to give foreigners the benefit of the doubt or more privileges than someone from their own country. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Los Angeloser wrote: |
I would say that any Kyopo or F visa holder is a "FAKE" teacher...
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2010/12/sorrows-of-fake-native-speakers.html
If he/she is not involved in the above link then he/she is still fake b/c he/she has NEVER been cleared as a non-criminal unless thy employer(under rare or unusual circumstances, which should become even more unusual next year) has requested a CRC. |
Any F-visa holder is a fake teacher? You do realize that there are different kinds of F visas, right? I'm sure you probably also realize that there are plenty of F-visa holding Kyopos that are just as qualified, if not more, than you. How about foreign nationals with teaching certificates who happen to be married to Koreans? Are we fake teachers? You're a clown. |
I don't know why I am defending Los Angeloser, but I think he meant f-4 visa holder.
Now, Angeloser, you do know that any job working at a public school requires you to have a CBC right? And what is your definition of a "fake" teacher? A person who doesn't have a TEFOL or Education certificate? Aperson without a license? A person without a BA? A person without experience working with children? A person without a CBC? |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| definitely maybe wrote: |
| Los Angeloser wrote: |
I would say that any Kyopo or F visa holder is a "FAKE" teacher...
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2010/12/sorrows-of-fake-native-speakers.html
If he/she is not involved in the above link then he/she is still fake b/c he/she has NEVER been cleared as a non-criminal unless thy employer(under rare or unusual circumstances, which should become even more unusual next year) has requested a CRC. |
Any F-visa holder is a fake teacher? You do realize that there are different kinds of F visas, right? I'm sure you probably also realize that there are plenty of F-visa holding Kyopos that are just as qualified, if not more, than you. How about foreign nationals with teaching certificates who happen to be married to Koreans? Are we fake teachers? You're a clown. |
I don't know why I am defending Los Angeloser, but I think he meant f-4 visa holder.
Now, Angeloser, you do know that any job working at a public school requires you to have a CBC right? And what is your definition of a "fake" teacher? A person who doesn't have a TEFOL or Education certificate? Aperson without a license? A person without a BA? A person without experience working with children? A person without a CBC? |
I know who he's talking about. He may not realize there are different categories though. I was just calling attention to the broad accusations he's tossing around. |
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koreandefence
Joined: 05 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Americans - Why sign Immigration extortion document? |
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DON'T sign it, Immigration asked me to sign it but I didn't. They wanted me to sign something to get my current E-2 visa and probably in some way to protect them next year somehow? Do you know what you're going to do next year? Do you know whether you will sign another contract to work here next year? Do you know whether you'll sign an extension to work for your current employer next year?
The Immigration office in Seoul, Omokyo is asking every American(E-2 visa holders ONLY) to sign a document to get their current E-2 visa. ISN'T THIS EXTORTION???
Immigration once asked me to sign a document saying I would drop my civil case against my former employer before they would give me an E-2 visa. I didn't sign it, the next day I went back and asked the dork to give me that in writing. He wouldn't but said "You can trust me, I'm an official." Of course I didn't trust him so I went back again the next day(what a hastle) and bribed the dork with a case of vitamin drinks. Guess what, that worked after I had to write an explanation of my situation for the dork's supervisor. Not to my surprise(actually it was at the time), I got my visa.
What is the document you might wonder? It's a simple notification or agreement that you will get an FBI check next year, but again I ask whether you know what you will be doing next year? Did anybody else from any other country have to sign this "agreement," I think not! Why do Americans? If you don't know what you'll be doing next year, DON'T sign it!
Be prepared to refuse after you do your visa run and apply for your Alien Registration Card(ARC). Just kindly tell them that you don't know what you'll be doing next year and that you've never had to get an FBI check before to work for anyone. In the states employers do this themselves and inform you what kind of crimes qualify/disqualify each and every applicant. Also tell them that you don't know anything about how to go about getting an FBI check, it's not like their "hikorea" website goes about informing us so it's safe to say nobody you talk to at Immigration will be able to tell you either.
Why would anyone go through the hastle of getting an FBI check not knowing whether a class A, B, or C misdemeanor disqualifies them or not? Both of my former employers had Class A misdemeanors(DWI's) but I guess it's okay for them to own/operate hagwons. In the states a DWI is a Class A misdemeanor, but what about a Class B "Reckless Driving" charge on your record, does that disqualify everyone? The problem is that the Korean Immigration doesn't tell ANYONE what is/isn't accepted while allowing Hagwon owners/Principals to do almost whatever they want. Finally, would you get an FBI check if your possible American employer asked you to get an FBI check WITHOUT infoming you what qualifies/disqualifies you?
Again I plead, DON'T sign it. |
Is it such a big deal to get an FBI check? ALL teachers in USA UK and AUSTRALIA need you to get a check, why do you think it is different here? Because you think you know better than everyone? Dork...wow how many times can you get that word in your article. Dork! |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:41 am Post subject: |
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For the record:
I am an F5 visa holder.
I have had 5 years experience with EPIK and I am still in their circle of business.
I have had to submit blood test and general health checks each of those years.
I did not call the OP a fraud or convict.
I am a he.
I have had to get my degree verified 6 times, but now the university I work at doesn't bother with it.
I own an apartment and pay taxes.
I lived in the states for 6 years and I am eligible for dual citizenship.
Best Regards,
Kimchieluver
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I was the second white male in my province to get an F2. If you don't want to play their extortion scam, then don't. Teach in another country. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Morticae wrote: |
| You're acting like an overzealous nut job. |
This. |
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