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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: Military Exercises Monday |
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SK plans sizable military exercises Monday. This time the U.S. wont be involved like a few weeks ago. It makes me think that will actually encourage the North to retaliate some how since knowing the U.S. wont have the heavy guns near by. Generally I'd just shrug this off as usual, but I have some people coming in to ICN Monday night. Now would not be a good time for everything to go crazy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/17/north-korea-south-korea-w_n_798116.html |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: Drill |
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I have read that there will still be about 20 US observers, & the DPRK complained that the ROK was using them as a human shield. Also read that they postponed the exercises by a week, which would suit me fine, as I leave Korea for 2 weeks on Saturday. I still hope nothing happens, but my gut feeling is that something serious is about to transpire. Hope I'm wrong. |
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TL
Joined: 30 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Also read that they postponed the exercises by a week |
Postponed by a week? Where did you read that?
From Yonhap news:
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(ATTN: UPDATES with reactions from political parties in last five paras)
SEOUL/NEW YORK, Dec. 19 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's military on Sunday reaffirmed its determination to go ahead with its planned live-fire drill this week off a Yellow Sea border island attacked by North Korea last month, as the United Nations Security Council plans to convene an emergency consultation on the rising inter-Korean tensions.
"The live-fire drill off Yeonpyeong Island will take place on Dec. 20 or 21, as previously announced, depending on weather conditions," a ranking military official in Seoul said Sunday. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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The US won't be involved? This is getting silly. It's no different, because the US can and will come anytime. If they keep playing this game, there will be war, but hopefully no sooner than March 1st so I can leave and let Korea takes it's path into the uncharted territory it's setting itself up to enter. If postponed a week, that's because it's Christmas and the government doesn't want the economy to slow down or halt. They want people to be in the comfortable shopping spirit right now which they still are as if nothing is wrong with their situation other than it being too crowded out there. My only real concern (other than getting out soon enough) is this situation is ultimately pitting the US and China up against each other. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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It appears SK is caving to international pressure and/or to the concern that NK is serious about its threats.
I suspect in a week's time, SK will delay it again, either blame it on the weather, or simply say they will do it after the holidays.
This is a good thing. |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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South Korea's planned live-fire drill on a border island is likely to be delayed to next week, but it will not be canceled despite Pyongyang's strong reactions, local media reported Saturday, citing military sources... South Korea has declared plans for a live shell artillery drill in the tense waters southwest of Yeonpyeong Island on a selected date from Dec. 18-21 depending on weather conditions. But local media reported earlier Saturday that the drills are unlikely to take place this weekend due to worsening weather conditions, citing government sources. |
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-12/18/c_13655065.htm
I leave Korea for 2 weeks on 25 December. Assuming that they don't go ahead tomorrow or Tuesday with planned military exercises, that would put the revised date just after Xmas? The article is unclear. I can only hope. |
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NSMatt
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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AsiaESLbound wrote: |
My only real concern (other than getting out soon enough) is this situation is ultimately pitting the US and China up against each other. |
You are lost in la-la land if you think China and the US are going to war.
China is the world's largest exporter and the US is its largest trading partner. China has absolutely no interest in destroying its economy just so it can back the North in an unwinnable war. |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Suwon4AGT
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: |
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*CHICKEN LITTLE ALERT*
I have packed my things and have contacted some military people I know here for evacuation assistance if I need it. I have it on good authority that there might be some kind of preemptive maneuver taking place very soon. I interpret that to mean that it may not be the Norks to strike first. Who knows?
In any event, expats should be on high alert and take all necessary precautions. Don't wait to hear for an attack on the news. It might be too late.
I know some of you live for helping kids fill out their workbooks and circling the pages with your everlasting Korean red-pen. But it wouldn't hurt for you to put down the soju sauce and run down to the GS25 and pick a couple of energy bars for your bug-out bag.
*END CHICKEN LITTLE ALERT* |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Whats the plan again? I think the embassy is going to leave non essential personnel high and dry. I would just stay put, have lots of water and not be in Seoul or North of it. Millions of people panicking sounds more dangerous than anything the North could lob over. |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: DPRK attack response |
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This is what I received in my email after the November 23 bombing of Yeonpyeong Island:
To members of the Australian community in Korea
You would all no doubt be aware of the recent heightened tensions on the
Korean Peninsula following the North Korean artillery attack against
Yeonpyeong Island on 23 November, informed in part by sometimes alarmist media reports.
The Australian Government takes very seriously its consular
responsibilities and has reviewed and updated its Travel Advice for the
Republic of Korea. This revised Travel Advice, reissued on the
smartraveller.gov.au website, recommended that Australian citizens in the
Republic of Korea keep abreast of the situation by monitoring local media
and the Travel Advice for further updates that might be issued by the
Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.
The summary of the current Travel Advice states:
We advise you to be alert to your own security in the Republic of Korea
(ROK).
Relations between the ROK and the Democratic People�s Republic of Korea
(DPRK) are at present very tense following an exchange of artillery fire on
23 November 2010 across the Northern Limit Line, a disputed border, in the
West Sea (Yellow Sea) off the coast of North Korea. We advise against
travel to the Northern Limit Line Islands in the ROK. Australians in the
ROK should continue to monitor developments closely and follow the
instructions of local authorities.
Australians in the ROK should continue to monitor developments closely
because of the risk that tensions on the Korean Peninsula could escalate
with little warning.
register your travel and contact details, so we can contact you in an
emergency
subscribe to this travel advice to receive free email updates each time
it's reissued.
While the content of the Travel Advice was revised and updated, its overall
level remained at "Be alert to your own safety" (level 1 out of 5). The
overall level of the Advice was not changed. We do not currently see any
significantly enhanced risk for Australian citizens resident in or
travelling to the rest of the Republic of Korea. The Australian Government
will continuously review and update the Travel Advice as developments might
require. It is important to note that the Travel Advice takes into account
all source information available to the Australian Government and
importantly, reflects our understanding of the actual situation, despite
the North Koreans' often bellicose rhetoric.
Tensions on the Peninsula currently appear to be subsiding. But as stated
in the Travel Advice, Australians in the ROK should continue to monitor
developments closely because of the risk that tensions could escalate with
little warning.
I do encourage Australians to register on the smartraveller.gov.au website,
so that we can contact you in case of any emergency. It is also probably
an opportune time to remind Australians that there is some information
available on the Australian Embassy website on what they might do
themselves to prepare for possible future emergencies. This information is
available at www.southkorea.embassy.gov.au/seol/emergency2_09.html, under
the section on 'Services for Australians - Emergency Information'.
Sam Gerovich
Ambassador of Australia |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Suwon4AGT wrote: |
*CHICKEN LITTLE ALERT*
I have packed my things and have contacted some military people I know here for evacuation assistance if I need it. I have it on good authority that there might be some kind of preemptive maneuver taking place very soon. I interpret that to mean that it may not be the Norks to strike first. Who knows?
In any event, expats should be on high alert and take all necessary precautions. Don't wait to hear for an attack on the news. It might be too late.
I know some of you live for helping kids fill out their workbooks and circling the pages with your everlasting Korean red-pen. But it wouldn't hurt for you to put down the soju sauce and run down to the GS25 and pick a couple of energy bars for your bug-out bag.
*END CHICKEN LITTLE ALERT* |
i'm going to do nothing, just like i have for everything else |
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Suwon4AGT
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:43 am Post subject: |
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bbud656 wrote: |
Whats the plan again? I think the embassy is going to leave non essential personnel high and dry. I would just stay put, have lots of water and not be in Seoul or North of it. Millions of people panicking sounds more dangerous than anything the North could lob over. |
Yeah, the more I think about it, there really isn't anything to worry about. Especially if SK goes ahead with a preemptive strike. It sounds like the Norks want a war, why not give it to them? What could it hurt? |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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We would be out of jobs or we would wish we were out of them when the Won crashed as hard as it would. 20 million unskilled workers would *beep* this economy up + any damage the country incurred during the conflict. On one they don't want to wait until they have more nukes or the capacity to launch them accurately. On the other, war would be a major blow to the economy in a worldwide recession. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: |
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AsiaESLbound wrote: |
The US won't be involved? This is getting silly. It's no different, because the US can and will come anytime. |
US military policy in Korea has always kept US troops strung out all along the DMZ to assure that any provokation would result in the US being involved automatically (as US troops would be fired upon). As such, not having US advisors present does change things a bit. |
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